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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 78: Live from Singapore, Malaysia (?!?)

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2018

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Ok, Steve and Bobby are not actually in Singapore (we sent Dennis Rodman instead). As usual, they're up on the 6th floor at Texas Law, bringing you the following this week: Doe v. Mattis - Because we can't go a week without some fascinating development in this case.  This time, it was the surprise announcement last Wednesday that DOD wants to go ahead and release him after all, but to do so in a way that would drop him off in SDF-controlled territory in Syria.  Doe is resisting, and now the long-awaited hearing on the legal merits--scheduled to occur on June 20th--has been replaced by a hearing on this release question.  And what will (or at least should) be argued then?  Steve and Bobby explore two distinct questions:  First, does some version of the Valentine rule forbid involuntary cross-border transfers that are not custodial on the back end (and even if so, should that be the rule with respect to releasing captives from a war zone)?  Second, is there a rule requiring that the release meet some threshold of safety and, if so, is that rule satisfied here? Boumediene's 10th anniversary:  A decade ago, the Supreme Court decided Boumediene v. Bush.  Viewed as a landmark at the time, what has its legacy turned out to be? SCOTUS watch: Still no Carpenter, Dalmazzi, or travel-ban decisions. The investigation and arrest of James Wolfe: the former head of security for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is under arrest for lying to the FBI about his relationship with reporters, with a real threat of further charges for mishandling classified information.  The underlying investigation, meanwhile, included acquisition of a reporter's communications metadata.  All of which provides an excellent occasion to review and discuss DOJ's guidelines governing such journalist-related investigations. Trumplandia Road Show: We could hardly ignore this, could we?  The Trump-KJU summit produced some significant American concessions regarding security guarantees for the DPRK and a promise to end US-South Korea joint military exercises. But it did not (yet) produce a reduction of sanctions.  We explore the authority of the president to do these things, emphasizing the limits on his control over sanctions in this particular setting. All that pushed us well past the 1-hour mark, so after promising some frivolity involving Steve's favorite SCOTUS decision of all time, we end up pushing that topic off till next time.  Till then...

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin, and welcome to episode 78 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:15.5

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.9

It is Tuesday morning, June 12th, and I'm Bobby Chesney.

0:23.0

I'm Steve Lodick, and I still only have one child. One child, but I bet you can change that by the time

0:27.6

we record again. I think the odds are good that barring an emergency episode later this week,

0:32.4

this is the last episode of the National Ticilat podcast where I will have one daughter.

0:37.0

Fantastic. Well, I'm excited for you guys. I will have one daughter. Fantastic.

0:37.7

Well, I'm excited for you guys.

0:39.0

I guess Monday is the expected day.

0:41.2

Monday is the day.

0:42.1

Monday, I think I said this before, right?

0:44.7

On or before Monday.

0:46.3

So by this time, six days from now, there will be another baby girl Vlodic in the world.

0:51.2

So a prediction that you are going to receive both your second daughter and a ruling in Dalaizi

0:57.0

on the same day.

0:58.0

Listen, it still hasn't come down.

1:01.0

Oh my God.

1:01.7

I'm convinced it's going to drop that.

1:03.7

Like right at the moment.

1:05.0

You know, my crazy re-argument prediction is actually looking a little less crazy by the day.

1:10.3

I think that's probably right.

1:11.6

But, you know, still, still, I think still not, not likely, but maybe not implausible.

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