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The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Episode 75, ‘Christian Animal Ethics’ with David Clough (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane

Euthanasia, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Existentialism, Marxism, Kant, Ethics, Davidpapineau, Dennett, Marx, Evilgodchallenge, Cosmological, Mind, Consciousness, Courses, Nagasawa, Education, Johnstuartmill, Jeremybentham, Aristotle, Ocr, Camus, Josephfletcher, Conscience, Society & Culture, Kantianethics, Philosophy

4.8604 Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2020

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

With the dominance of humankind has come a new age, an age of global warming, ecological collapse, and sixth mass extinction. In 2018, it was reported that of all the Earth’s mammals, 96% are humans and livestock. Our overpopulation, overconsumption, and exploitation have caused a climate catastrophe, but we are not our only victims. Each year, over 70 billion land creatures and 7 trillion sea animals are killed for food, and despite growth in public awareness, the overwhelming majority of these animals continue to endure unimaginable suffering throughout their lives. 

The religions of ancient India - Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism - are no strangers to practicing ahimsa and vegetarianism. Their Abrahamic cousins have a very different past. For the advocate of animal rights, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have a long and dark history in their treatment of our fellow creatures. A history, many theologians, want to condemn to the history books.

One such theologian is David Clough, professor of theological ethics at the University of Chester. Through his systematic theology On Animals, Professor Clough has inspired a new wave of scholarship on Christian attitudes towards our fellow creatures, and the Earth as a whole, calling Christians to unshackle themselves from Aristotelian ways of thinking and embrace Darwinian theories of the natural world.

Contents

Part I. The Rise of the Vegangelicals.

Part II. Further Analysis and Discussion.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Pan

0:01.2

Pan

0:02.1

Psychist

0:04.2

Part two

0:19.9

Further analysis and discussion.

0:23.6

So, David, this is kind of, let's call it three questions in one.

0:29.4

Firstly, I mean...

0:30.8

Oh, good.

0:32.2

The first is, guess, really, just how bad do animals really have it, right?

0:38.9

We've kind of, we've talked around this topic, but so far we haven't really given any concrete examples.

0:44.2

And, you know, we all know that they really do.

0:46.5

So first of all, how bad do they have it?

0:48.6

And the second part is, well, as a consequence of this, what would you like actual Christians to do?

0:54.5

And then as a follow-up to that, is could you tell us a little more about the actual projects you're involved with,

1:00.2

so which is creature kind and the default veg project.

1:03.8

Thank you.

1:04.9

I'll start on the first of those and do that you know if I need reminding about questions two and three.

1:10.1

How bad do animals have it?

1:13.3

Okay, one way of getting a grip on the scale of what we're doing at a moment,

1:18.8

which I think is really helpful, is to recognize that by 1900,

1:23.8

the biomass of all domesticated animals had grown to exceed that of all wildland mammals by three and a half times.

1:31.8

That's in 1900 which so far expanded, especially the use of animals we're making for food.

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