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The Literary Life Podcast

Episode 74: Phantastes, Ch. 15-19

The Literary Life Podcast

Angelina Stanford

Arts, Books, Education

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2020

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Literary Life podcast, our series on George MacDonald's Phantastes continues. Today Angelina and Cindy discuss chapters 15-19. But before they get started, they announce the upcoming reading challenge for next year, the Literary Life 19 Books for 2021 challenge! Also, we are pleased to be bringing you Literary Life Commonplace Books, perfect for recording what you are reading, as well as all your favorite quotes.

Angelina and Cindy open the book discussion with the idea of the "other world" structure in fantasy writing, as well as how influential MacDonald was on writers who came after him. They also go in depth with the concept of the Holy Spirit as the originator of creative thought in conjunction with MacDonald's thoughts on the imagination. Angelina gets excited about the metaphorical descent into Hades in this section of the book. She and Cindy talk about the importance of the hope of redemption, the platonic ideal versus reality, and learning to let go instead of grasp at things. They also return to the idea of true education being noble unrest introduced in last week's episode.

Don't forget to check out the Advent and Christmas resources our hosts have ready for your holiday season. As mentioned before, Cindy's new edition of Hallelujah: Cultivating Advent Traditions with Handel's Messiah is available now, and it is not to late to start if you purchase the Kindle version. Check our CindyRollins.net for more information. Also, Thomas and Angelina have a sale going on for an Advent Bundle of their popular webinars, Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol and The Poetry of Advent. Additionally, Kelly Cumbee will be teaching a webinar series called "Seeking the Discarded Image: Nature."

Commonplace Quotes:

Thomas Merton recognized at once when he wrote in his journal for July 18, 1964, "I began it this morning, studying it as a tract on monastic life, the myth of pilgrimage, the quest for the impossible island, the earthly paradise, the ultimate ideal," for it is above all liturgical prayer and liturgical time that provide the structure of the journey as it unfolds around the two key anchor points: the Easter cycle, spent in the environs of the island of sheep, and the Christmas cycle with the monastic community of Alba.

Esther de Waal

I never could believe that a man who did not find God in other places, as well as in the Bible, ever found Him there at all. To find God in other books enables us to see clearly that He is more in the Bible than in any other book or in all books put together.

George MacDonald

Nightingales

by Robert Bridges

Beautiful must be the mountains whence ye come,
    And bright in the fruitful valleys the streams, wherefrom
                        Ye learn your song:
Where are those starry woods? O might I wander there,
    Among the flowers, which in that heavenly air
                        Bloom the year long!

    Nay, barren are those mountains and spent the streams:
    Our song is the voice of desire, that haunts our dreams,
                        A throe of the heart,
Whose pining visions dim, forbidden hopes profound,
    No dying cadence nor long sigh can sound,
                        For all our art.

    Alone, aloud in the raptured ear of men
    We pour our dark nocturnal secret; and then,
                        As night is withdrawn
From these sweet-springing meads and bursting boughs of May,
    Dream, while the innumerable choir of day
                        Welcome the dawn.

Book List:W

The Celtic Way of Prayer by Esther De Waal

At the Back of the North Wind by George MacDonald

Annals of a Quiet Neighborhood by George MacDonald

A Dish of Orts by George MacDonald

The Mind of the Maker by Dorothy L. Sayers

Parents and Children by Charlotte Mason

Adam Bede by George Eliot

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're going to. Welcome to the literary life podcast where your hosts Angelina Stanford and Cindy Rollins, explore a life shaped by books, stories, and poetry.

0:28.0

Each week, we will rescue story from the Ivory Tower and bring it to your couch, your kitchen, and your commute.

0:35.0

The literary life is for everyone because in the words of Stratford Caldecott,

0:39.0

to be enchanted by story is to be granted a deeper insight into reality.

0:44.0

Hello and welcome back to the literary life podcast.

0:51.0

Today it's just the two ladies. It's ladies night here at the literary life

0:55.6

podcast with Cindy the blonde bombshell Rollins and I Angelina Stanford her

1:01.1

faithful side kick Sancho Panza for this episode.

1:05.0

The mysterious...

1:06.0

Well, actually I thought of a new moniker for you.

1:09.0

Oh no.

1:10.0

I was thinking of what about the fairy tale whisper?

1:13.0

Oh, yeah.

1:15.0

My husband was thinking the fairy tale lady.

1:21.0

You said something about, I didn't plan to be the fairy tale lady but that's what I am and I thought

1:26.0

ah that's a good one but not quite good enough. Well my husband would find a

1:30.2

hilarious that anybody uses the word whisper about anything to do with me.

1:34.2

So the fairy tale, Yeller, maybe.

1:37.6

Yes, exactly.

1:38.6

So yes, Mr. Banks is not here with us today because he went into the fairy palace and has gotten trapped inside the library.

1:46.1

So he's just, yeah, he's going to read all the books in there and hopefully come out.

1:49.7

Oh, you know how that goes. I do know how that goes. I'll have to sing songs to bring him back to life. So we have got a lot to cover today. I'm actually really excited about these sections. We're going to cover chapters of 15 through 19 and these may be my favorite chapters yet.

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