Episode 71, Plato’s Apology: Socrates on Trial (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)
The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane
4.8 • 604 Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2019
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Gentleman of our most prestigious Court of Athens, may I praise your patience and diligence in the presentation of the prosecution. I, Meletus stand before you unequivocally convinced that the criminal is guilty as charged. The hideous, snub-nosed Socrates is charged with corrupting the young men of Athens with his rhetoric and poisonous oratory skill, an undeniable fact. Socrates also stands before you charged with denying the gods their authority and challenging the beliefs of every genuine Athenian.
He insults our great city with his relentless irritating presence, a fly in great need of a spider. He shows no signs of remorse for his conduct or apology for his crimes, a true reflection of his guilt. I beg you loyal judicators of Athens, listen to his words, hear him twist them for his own malevolent purpose. Look into his eyes, see his lack of contrition. He says he knows nothing! I know at least one thing, the evidence presented by the prosecution proves Socrates is guilty, and he should accept the judgement of the Athenian Court.
Contents
Part I. The Dialogue
Part II. Further Analysis and Discussion
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| 0:00.0 | Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Scicast |
| 0:08.0 | Part 2. Further analyses and discussion. |
| 0:27.8 | So we've all done it there, just so I'm not the only one being accused of being a racist towards the French. |
| 0:33.3 | So we're all in the same boat. Prosecutors, what are you going to do? |
| 0:36.0 | We've got pretty good defences, unlike Socrates. |
| 0:39.0 | Oh, he went there. |
| 0:40.0 | It's too late to apologise, Socrates. |
| 0:44.7 | So we've finished our reading of the apology. |
| 0:47.7 | We really enjoyed it. |
| 0:48.6 | It's a wonderful text. |
| 0:50.4 | You have to read the apology if you want to get a feel for who Socrates is. |
| 0:55.2 | It's got a great flavor. |
| 0:56.6 | It's got great showmanship in there. |
| 0:58.9 | It's got some good arguments in there as well. |
| 1:02.2 | And as well, as we know, the Athenians don't take kindly to them, do they? |
| 1:06.6 | He loses by 30 votes. |
| 1:08.0 | So there's about 501 people there deciding whether or not he's going to be prosecuted with death. And he loses by 60 votes. I think he says like, oh, if only 30 you change your mind, like this is on a hairpin. Yeah, I'm being decided to go to death. And he also makes mention of if this troll was longer, then I can actually give a proper defence. But the way the system is, I can't do that. So he's quite critical of them in that respect, isn't he? |
| 1:29.2 | Yeah, one way to really win over a judicial court is to criticise the system itself. |
| 1:33.6 | That's really going to give you a hand. |
| 1:35.7 | Yeah, I think you said that he gives some good arguments, but mostly I kind of feel like the accusations are just rubbish. |
| 1:44.4 | Assuming that this is accurate in any way, if these were the things that were being posed to Socrates and the things that the jury were debating, it feels so ridiculous now to look back at it and think that was enough to be proven guilty and not only |
| 2:02.0 | that but be sentenced to death for what's happened here. I think that's the thing, isn't it? I get |
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