Episode 70, Plato's Euthyphro: Socrates Accused (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane

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4.8 • 604 Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Did you hear the news of Socrates? He’s finally to answer for his sophistry! At last, the great lampooning, moral gadfly is to stand before the Court of Athens and answer for his crimes. To think, one could have the audacity to trade in talentless talk and lies, to lead our youth astray, and deny our gods, only to play the fool once more, and plead ignorance when his number is called.

Oh, magnificent Socrates, ‘the great rhetorician’ - his followers are deluded. A more fitting label? ‘Socrates, the great casuist clown!’ Lacking all reason and logic, he makes a mockery of our institutions. Like the fool who claims others cannot see, because he himself is blind, Socrates has only ever opened his mouth to appease his own lack of wisdom. Justly, he now finds himself in a tricky dilemma; may the gods have mercy on his impious soul.

Contents

Part I. The Dialogue

Part II. Further Analysis and Discussion

Links

Plato, The Complete Works (pdf).

Transcript

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0:00.0	Pan
0:01.0	Pan
0:02.0	Psycast Part 2 Further analysis and discussion.
0:23.1	This is getting offensive on many different levels now, Jack.
0:26.0	This is getting even worse.
0:27.2	I just don't, I'm trying to mix it up a little bit.
0:29.4	But the other accents I do are offensive.
0:31.7	And the French accent is fine, but I can't just do the same one.
0:34.9	So do it again.
0:35.5	You can only do one.
1:11.6	That's what we established many years ago. That's not offence. Scottesh. I can already say the word scottesh, though. I can do from Birmingham, part two. Further analysis and discussion. This is why you're all here. So, I guess the first thing to say is if you haven't listened to the previous episode, this episode is probably going to be a waste of your time. So go back and listen to that one because we've just read through all of you for throw. We loved it. It was amazing. It was emotional. Well, it wasn't that emotional. We'll say amazing. We technically didn't read through the entire review for throw in that we've condensed these down so that the listeners get the core of the dialogue. Otherwise, we would be here for a long, long time.
1:15.6	And if you want a full version of it, you can go elsewhere, I'm sure.
1:18.6	So, yeah, go out quite a full version.
1:20.6	And you can pick up the text and they're really easy to pick up and read.
1:23.6	The great thing about them is you can kind of read them first hand,
1:26.6	discuss them off the back of it, but they're deceptively simple in that there's so many great deep themes within them. And we're going to try and give a flavor of what those themes are in this further analysis section. One thing that comes straight to me is that Yutha is quite unlikable, he's quite arrogant, he thinks that he knows
1:44.8	he's the most pious person who knows exactly what religion and what the gods want. To extend
1:49.5	that he's going to prosecute rather his father for killing somebody, because he's that certain
1:54.6	of what it is. And it brings to mind people in society that might speak on behalf of gods
1:59.9	and claim they know what piety is,
2:01.4	doesn't it? People like, people like Justin Welby, Pope Francis, religious examples, or maybe
2:06.6	like political examples like Mike Pence. These are examples of people that say, I know what piety is and
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