I'm on the phone with Danny Boy now we're doing our part two because last time he was in LA we we ran out of time and there's so much to talk about and

Actually just listen back to where we ended and where we ended that was

I was saying how when I first saw how the pain come out you guys look like hardcore kids and I got all information from from talking to you because you were a hardcore punk

into suicidal and skateboarding and all that shit and that was intentional and

that was part of you know how you guys were growing up and stuff being involved in

hip-hop and everything.

I mean for me for sure not Eric and lethal but for me most definitely it was curious in the 80s growing up in the San Fernando Valley which is like on the other side of the hill of Hollywood as punk started to become a thing there were a lot of punk gangs based on punk bands, if you will.

Suicidal tenancy having, I'm sure, the largest at that time of, you know, band to gang ratio.

Yeah, yeah.

And I remember yesterday the first punk album I bought, I mean, for calling it punk,

and you're calling it hardcore, let's not mean, you know, whatever those definitions are different to everybody, but at the time the first record I had bought that was anything close to punk was suicidal tendencies record. Yeah.

Genius record, it was also executive produced by Glaney Friedman,

the photographer as well, which was a whole other crazy story.

I found out years later that, you know, he he I think he lent them 20 grand of his

personal savings that he had saved up from doing all the skate photos for all those

years regardless sign the frontier records blah blah blah I had none I didn't care about any

all I saw was dudes with white t-shirts button to the top with you know with hats flipped up

Venice written under them v 13 and throwing up gang signs and I was like these

dudes are hard as fuck and you know I've always graduated towards that you know

that counterculture tough guy stuff as a kid yeah and so for me that was a thing and then as I started going out to night clubs a lot of there was a lot of dance clubs in LA at the time I would consider them like new wave type dance clubs

phases hot tracks 3-2-1 in Santa Monica

what's the other one and Santa Monica. What's the other one in, Dillens in Westwood and there's one in Hollywood that I'm forgetting it'll come to me. But and this is where I started to see a lot

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