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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 68: This Podcast Is Not Protected by the Attorney-Client Privilege

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2018

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode 68!  On tap for this week: Tom Bossert is out, and Michael Cohen is in trouble.  We'll talk mostly about the latter, with an emphasis on the way that attorney-client privilege law and procedure interacts with search warrants. Fresh CAATSA sanctions, this time targeting Russian oligarchs.  The Treasury Department is distinguishing itself as quite strong on Russia issues. The Syrian government again uses chemical weapons, and the Trump Administration hints at another military response. We'll quickly review the domestic legal issues this scenario raises. Digression on non-disclosure and arbitration agreements: From whispers of lifelong-NDAs for White House personnel, to stories about law firms requiring summer associates to sign both non-disclosure and arbitration agreements, questions of transparency, procedure, and rights are in the air. Renewing the AUMF renewal debate:  The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, under the leadership of Sen. Corker, is about to get back in the game.  We preview some of the likely issues based on early reports, in anticipation of a bill going public on Thursday. Severstal Export (a subsidiary of a Russian steel company) has sued the Trump administration over its steel tariffs, urging the Court of International Trade to treat Trump's stated national security justification as a pretext for protectionism.  It's a lot like the Travel Ban litigation, but Severstal has lost round 1 already (with the CIT rejecting a request for a TRO). Doe v. Mattis and the 72-hour notice-before-transfer requirement: We recap last week's oral argument, and we also wonder what is taking so long on the underlying merits dispute. The military commissions and Nashiri: things just got even more complicated, amazingly. If you stick around that long, you will be treated to an appreciation of the amazing start to the season for the Amazin' Mets (including a ranking of their starting pitchers).

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 68, the National Security Law podcast, brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.0

It's Tuesday morning, April 10th. Jeff Sessions, still the Attorney General.

0:22.2

For the moment. And I'm still Bobby Chesney. I'm still Steve Lodick. Bobby, is this podcast protected

0:28.8

by the attorney-client privilege? Well, you're licensed. I'm licensed. So sure, why not? You often

0:34.1

say I'm your next friend in the event of your detention. That is true.

0:37.8

You are my next friend, but does that mean that therefore nothing I ever tell you can be properly

0:42.1

a subject of a search warrant?

0:43.0

That's right.

0:43.5

All things said to me can never be seized, observed.

0:47.6

It says something about how big and mostly stupid part of the story is that it got me to not even mention right off the

0:55.4

back that the New York Mets are 8 and 1 tied for their best nine game start in franchise history.

1:01.0

Let's tell us something about your priorities.

1:03.1

They're all screwed up.

1:04.3

They're all screwed up.

1:05.7

We'll have something to say about the Mets and their hot start later on.

1:09.4

And maybe repeatedly and throughout the podcast as I sprinkle in here and there some shots

1:13.6

at the nationals.

1:14.6

There you go.

1:15.1

You know, don't, you got to watch out for karma, man.

1:17.9

Listen, I just, I might, this might be my only chance all year.

1:20.1

Well, that's a good point.

1:20.8

You do have to take it while you can get it.

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