Hi everybody and welcome to another Robcast and I have the one and only as it says on the spine of the book Diana Butler bass with me

Hello Diana. Hi Rob. It's great to be finally in the same room with you. Yes. I've admired your work for a long time

And now that you're in the backhouse here in my World Headquarters. This is so great

So Robcast friends Diana is a scholar. What do you religion scholar?

On my website it says I'm an independent scholar and I guess that would be a pretty good description

And that's what I was trained in I was trained as a church historian and theologian have a PhD

But for the last

15-18 years I've been doing it all in public and not just in classrooms

So I guess maybe I'm a public

Public theologian but that's kind of a weird title too. Okay friends what that means is that you are

About to have your minds blown and here's why I've been doing this I've been doing this god series got what's called godpart 1 godpart 2 godpart 3

And now you're gonna actually

Those of you who have been sort of following that series you're gonna actually hear from somebody who's so incredibly well

Versed in all this and Diana has written a new book called grounded. How many books have you written by the way?

This is number nine. This is her ninth book and

The book is called grounded and I'm telling you

This book so what we're gonna do is I'm just what I want to take people through just the intro and just have you riff a bit

Because when I read this I was like oh my word my my Robcast people are gonna go bonkers

Over these ideas

So I've talked about three tiered. Let's jump into three tiered universe

I've talked about three tiered on the podcast

I know for many people that was like oh my word that's so helpful. How do you explain in the book?

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