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The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Episode 65, 'The Awe-Some Argument' with Ryan Byerly (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane

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4.8604 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2019

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

University of Sheffield philosopher, Assistant Professor Ryan Byerly is best known for his work in philosophy of religion, epistemology and virtue theory. Publishing widely in these areas, Ryan is also Reviews Editor for the European Journal for Philosophy of Religion, Treasurer for the British Society for Philosophy of Religion, and a member of Sheffield’s Centre for Engaged Philosophy. Amongst many other fascinating papers in philosophy of religion, Ryan is the author of ‘The Awe-Some Argument for Pantheism’, which forms our focus for today’s discussion.

Ryan’s argument for pantheism (the belief that ‘God is the universe and the universe is God’) provides an exciting and unique take on not just the type of god we should believe in, but also the way in which we might come to establish its existence. In short, Ryan thinks that the emotion of awe - that profound, ineffable feeling that one has when they see Van Gogh’s Starry Night or a meteor burning up in the atmosphere - can point us in the direction of things which are divine. The greatest object of awe, says Byerly, is the cosmos, and therefore, the cosmos is the most divine thing.

Contents

Part I. The Awe-Some Argument for Pantheism.

Part II. Further Analysis and Discussion.


Transcript

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Part 2, further analyses and discussion.

0:25.7

Welcome back.

0:26.3

Ollie, you've been doing your homework.

0:27.6

Can you remind us what we're talking about?

0:29.1

So we're talking about pantheism, and we're talking about the awesome argument for pantheism.

0:35.1

So we've got a couple of premises, So this idea that awe is a feeling,

0:38.6

it's an emotion that is potentially universal that we all hold, and that this emotion arises

0:44.8

and can, well, is arisen the most by the cosmos. So the cosmos elicits more awe in us than anything

0:50.9

else. This argument could argue that this awe is kind of a divine feeling.

0:55.0

It comes from pantheism, which is the idea that the universe is God and God is the universe.

1:00.0

So then I guess the question then that we kind of want to ask is, or that I want to kind of focus on here, Ryan, is like,

1:06.0

so this idea of pantheism, we haven't really, really mentioned too much yet, but what does it kind of mean with the idea the universe is God?

1:12.6

What does that actually mean?

1:14.6

The way that I think of pantheism in the paper is a thesis that the universe is divine or spiritually ultimate or transcendent.

1:25.6

It's the most divine or most spiritually ultimate or transcendent, it's the most divine or most spiritually ultimate or

1:30.4

transcendent thing that there is, then my aim with the argument is to give a defense of that

1:36.1

conclusion. It might help to think about the argument in this way. One of the really neat

1:41.7

things you might think about the argument is that it really

1:45.7

provides a different way of thinking about the nature of God from ways that we might be more

1:52.4

familiar with. So, for example, it's been common for philosophers of religion to think of God

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