The Telegraph Podcasts

Hello and welcome to Brian Moore's full contact in association with the Telegraph.

I'm Brian Moore and this week I'm joined in the studio by the former England and Lions Flanger

Peter Winterbottom. Peter, how are you, mate?

Good, thanks, Brian.

Good, mate.

Look, let's start off at the sharp end, the very sharp end of the season, the finals.

Saracen's convincing victory over Exeter at Twickenham.

In some ways, I'm quite glad that it turned out the way it did in this sense.

I fully understand how good Exeter have been, how remarkable their journey is.

But I got the feeling when they played Newcastle in the semi, that when they

had 93% ball and they didn't score a lot of points, that if we had a final way they kept the

ball for as long as they can do, and Saracens then kept the ball for as long as they can do,

we might get a repeat of the European Champions Cup final

where Rassing and Lensler were just so good in possession

that effective you got 25 phase almost rugby league

before anything happened.

And the fact that Saracens went out and they had that X factor with players

who were able to break up that sort of game meant that the final had to at least open out a bit.

Yeah, I mean it was a tough game. Yes. There are two solid sides. I think what was disappointing

from Exodus's point of view was the lack of creativeness. They didn't sort of seem to know how to break through. I mean, as you

say, at one point there was, I think, 24, 25 phases and Exeter hadn't even broken

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