On the surface, the E-Less Move More concept.

Welcome to the Primal Blueprint Podcast.

It does make sense.

From our studios in Malibu, California.

A calorie from protein isn't necessarily the equivalent of a calorie from carbohydrate

or from fat.

Welcome to another episode of the Primal Blueprint podcast with Mark Sisson.

I'm your host, Brad Kearns, here in the Malibu Studios with Mark.

And today I thought we would talk about the question of caloric intake, caloric expenditure, weight loss,

some of the misinformation and controversy going on and how to set this whole thing straight.

Well, and there certainly is a lot of controversy, and there certainly are a lot of questions

in the minds of a lot of people.

Because over the years, I think we in the primal blueprint have made it clear that much of

this goal of achieving ideal body composition has to do with how you manipulate hormones

and particularly insulin and how you become a fat burning beast and you take fat out of your

fat cells and burn it for energy and therefore trend toward an ideal body composition.

And yet there still seems to be a large faction of people out there who are

adamant that this is all just a matter of eating less and moving more, that it's a calories in,

calories out function, full stop. So today I think we should maybe delve into this and figure out,

you know, where are the points of

disagreement and maybe clear it up from the perspective of the primal blueprint.

Okay.

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