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Episode 6 | Dathan Ritzenhein

the morning shakeout podcast

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

“I’m happy with what I did on the track, what I did at shorter distances. I’m good with that. I’m good with who I am, with where I’ve been, all of those things, mistakes I’ve made along the way—I’m OK with that. In the marathon though, I just know that my back is against the wall and I feel like I still have something to prove to myself still. These last two marathons aren’t going to define what I’ve done—the rest of my career, I’m happy with that, I can put that in my back pocket—but I want to make that fourth Olympic team.”Three-time Olympian and former American 5,000m American record holder Dathan Ritzenhein comes on the podcast to discuss a wide range of topics, including the upcoming Boston Marathon, training with the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project, the changes he’s made to his training in order to stay healthy at 35 years of age, and why he’s still competing despite dozens of injuries over the years, including 15 stress fractures, three surgeries, a ruptured plantar fascia, and myriad other issues. “I’ve been doing this twice a day since I was 13 or 14, and so not that it’s all I know, but it’s what I know,” he told me. “I have plans post-running but I still genuinely enjoy training and I think that’s one thing a lot of people get sick of—they get sick of training. They like the lifestyle, they like running, they like going to races, and I love all those things too, but I like the challenge and I like the way I feel when I train. It’s just a passion—if you don’t have it, it won’t matter and when it’s gone, I’ll probably know pretty quick. But I still have it, I still have goals, and when you have goals and you enjoy what you’re doing, it’s not a job. It’s not hard.”Also in this conversation, Ritzenhein and I discuss the arc of his career, including training hard from a young age and how that may have contributed to his many injuries over the years, what he would change as a young athlete knowing what he knows now, the deepest he’s ever dug in a race, and the importance of having a solid support system when he’s training hard. “The ability is there and I know it,” Ritzenhein says. “A lot of the time I feel as good as ever…and I’m not going to be making the same mistakes I made in 2016 and think that I can do it on my own. I have to have this team to help me get there. And that’s part of the reason [I signed with Hansons-Brooks] and why I’m so focused on [Boston] right now.Finally, we also cover the memorable summer of 2009 when he finished sixth at world championships in the 10,000m, broke the American record in the 5,000m, and ran 60-flat to finish third in the world half-marathon championships, the complexities of training for and racing the marathon, what he’s learned coaching other athletes, and a heck of a lot more. This episode of the morning shakeout podcast was edited by John Isaac at BaresRecords.com.Complete show notes here: http://www.themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-6-dathan-ritzenhein/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

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0:00.0

Dathan Ritzenheim, welcome to the morning shakeout podcast.

0:03.4

Thanks for having me Mario. I'm looking forward to it.

0:07.0

So right now we are about two months out from Boston. You're in Florida. What are things looking like for you

0:15.8

these days? Yeah, I escaped the great north finally. I got down here at Florida about a week ago and man it was brutal the first the

0:30.8

first couple of weeks of weeks of the buildup training.

0:35.0

I had some good weather and then I got out of there just in time because it's been really nasty again.

0:41.0

So I'm pretty much on the full training now and I'm

0:45.0

feeling good and I just kind of yeah I'm just getting into a really good groove

0:49.6

right now actually and laying down the base layer in my pan down here as well so but I feel I feel

0:58.1

great actually so that's I'm feeling like I'm in a really good spot about yeah

1:01.8

eight weeks out nine nine weeks out.

1:04.0

And what's full training looking like for you these days?

1:07.5

You've recently joined the Hansons Brooks Distance Project.

1:11.3

You're working with Keith and Kevin Hanson. I'm assuming they're

1:14.0

directing the show right now. You're 35 years old. This is your second Boston

1:19.4

marathon. So what what does what does full training look like for Dathan Ritzenheim these days?

1:23.7

Yes, I'm definitely in a different position that a lot of the people that come into the program.

1:30.0

I've known you know I've known Keith and Kevin for so long.

1:34.0

I ran against some of their first guys, you know, in 1999 when they had a, uh, they had some races that they didn't have any sponsorships other than through the store.

1:44.6

They were just kind of trying to give guys the opportunity after college coming out who didn't have

1:52.2

the opportunity to sign any contracts and stuff.

1:55.0

I was just a young high school kid really and so now they'll be in 35 yeah it's funny

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