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Episode 599: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to bin Laden

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Politics, Charles C. W. Cooke, Conservatism, Conservative, Policy, Government, News, Jim Geraghty, Rich Lowry, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Current Events, Noah Rothman, Madeleine Kearns, Society & Culture, Public Policy, National Review

4.44.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Rich, Charlie, MBD, and Maddy discuss Xi’s visit to the United States, the rise of bin Laden fandom on TikTok, and the old problems faced by the new Speaker of the House.

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0:00.0

And the Biden and Z summit together Mike Johnson pulls a Kevin McCarthy and the kids

0:19.9

Discover Osama bin Laden we'll discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors.

0:25.5

I'm rich Lowry and I'm joined as always by the right honorable Charles C. W. Cook,

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Madeline, Maddie Kearns and the notorious M.B.D. Michael Brandon Doherty, you are of course listening to a National New

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0:39.3

More about both of them.

0:40.7

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0:48.1

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0:57.2

MBD, we had this pull aside that kind of became a mini summit between Biden and Z. And Biden said he mentioned the things

1:09.1

you want him to mention about human rights and Taiwan, but the statement from Biden on Taiwan was relatively

1:18.2

muted, especially compared to his serial statements that were going to defend Taiwan that of course have always been

1:24.8

walked back but he left out some of the pro- Taiwan, wrote material usually here from from a president.

1:32.2

I don't understand the details of this. Supposedly we got

1:35.6

assurances. We got assurances from China on fentanyl, although we've had

1:40.3

assurances before and they're setting up a military direct connection, a direct line,

1:47.1

which is a good thing to have. But my understanding actually in prior crises, the Chinese never pick up when you call.

1:54.0

So like, after we bombed their embassy in Belgrade,

1:57.2

no one picked up and when they took our surveillance plane down, they never picked up.

2:04.1

So it's not clear what exactly was accomplished here?

2:06.5

What's your take on it?

2:07.5

You know, it was a mixed bag.

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