So with Beijing, the balloon incident is over.

What are under the bridge?

We did what we needed to do to protect our interests.

We said what we needed to say and make clear what we needed and make clear in terms of

this not happening again.

And so as long as it doesn't, that chapter should be closed.

Did you get any commitment on those three wrongfully detained Americans?

We have a commitment to continue to work hard on resolving these cases, military to military.

We don't have an agreement on that yet.

It's something we're going to keep working.

I made very clear to our Chinese counterparts the importance that we attach to that, something

that is also profoundly in their interest because again, we both agree that we want to,

at the very least, make sure that we don't inadvertently have a conflict because of

miscommunication because of misunderstanding.

So Xi Jinping didn't say they absolutely not?

No, this is a work in progress.

This is a work in progress.

We're working on it.

Will the defense chiefs at least talk to each other?

Well, again, to be seen, we've made clear that we think that's important, more than important.

Imperative.

I think the Chinese understand very well because I made very clear where we're coming from

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