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Blocked and Reported

Episode 57: There's No Accountability To Accountability Lists These Days (feat. Jonathan Chait)

Blocked and Reported

Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Jesse and Katie talk about Jesse's inclusion on a very special list of very special bigots, Katie's addition to the ever-growing list of people who got Doyle'd, and an annoyingly one-sided front-page New York Times piece about online censorship. Then they throw to an interview Jesse did with Jon Chait, an excellent writer and thinker who had a big impact on Jesse's own work over the years.

Jesse on the disgraceful GLAAD clusterfuck: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/glaad-took-false-previously-disproven

Jon Chait - Not a Very P.C. Thing to Say: How the language police are perverting liberalism: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/01/not-a-very-pc-thing-to-say.html

One of Chait's most recent Russia pieces: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ex-kgb-agent-trump-russian-asset-mueller-putin-kompromat-unger-book.html

NYT Mag on Robin DiAngelo: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/magazine/white-fragility-robin-diangelo.html

Chait on that piece and Robin DiAngelo: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/antiracism-training-white-fragility-robin-diangelo-ibram-kendi.html

Jesse on left-wing identitarianism: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/slate-pete-buttigieg-and-the-limited

Chait - An Elite Progressive LISTSERV Melts Down Over a Bogus Racism Charge: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/white-fragility-racism-racism-progressive-progressphiles-david-shor.html

Moral clarity: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/opinion/objectivity-black-journalists-coronavirus.html

The tweet that got Lee Fang in trouble: https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1268390704645943297

Chait v. Higgins: https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1329057894164279296



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0:00.0

KD, how's it going?

0:05.4

Hey Jesse, I just got some really good news a couple days ago.

0:08.2

You always seem to have news whenever we record a podcast, what's going on?

0:11.2

Isn't it weird how that works out?

0:12.8

Okay, so do you remember, I've talked a few times about this guy named Stort Regis, who's

0:17.6

a professor of computer science at the University of Washington, and he, there's been this

0:22.9

like campaign to basically get him fired, coordinated by students and some faculty members,

0:28.4

because he has this very problematic belief that the reason that there aren't more women

0:34.3

in computer science is not because of oppression and prejudice, but it's because of a different

0:39.2

sort of cultural and possibly biological factors differentiating men and women.

0:42.8

You know what I'm talking about?

0:44.4

This was the guy who physically assaulted a bunch of his students' feelings, right?

0:48.0

Exactly, he did.

0:49.0

He physically assaulted their feelings by saying that women in tech are not oppressed.

0:53.4

Okay, so I, like two years ago, I filed a public records request to get the emails about Stort

1:00.2

between his colleagues, which is one of the great things about reporting on public institutions

1:04.9

is that if somebody is, you know, if a department had his shit talking a colleague, we can

1:09.3

find this stuff out.

1:10.6

So it's been two years since I filed this public records request, and I finally got an

1:14.6

update from the University of Washington, and they told me that they had to, so they had

1:18.8

to unfortunately extend the response date to my public records request, but at least I

1:23.5

have a new one.

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