Welcome to the To Love, Honor and Vacuum Podcast. I'm Sheila Ray Gregoer from To Love Honor and Vacuum.

Where we like to talk about how to make marriage into a passionate adventure and not just a giant to-do list.

And speaking of giant to-do list.

And speaking of giant to-do lists,

what happens when sex stops being about passion

and starts being about something that you must do. For today's

podcast I've invited my daughter Rebecca to join me. Hey Becca.

Hi there. Where we are self isolating in different houses and kind of miserable but at least we get to talk to each other

and we're going to talk to each other about a conversation that we started two weeks ago on the

podcast with Aunt Matilda. Yes the Aunt Matilda excerpt from the Act of Marriage.

Mm-hmm.

And you felt very sorry for Aunt Matilda.

I felt nauseous reading that excerpt.

And for anyone who didn't hear that podcast,

the Aunt Matilda story is a story

and the act of marriage

written by Tim and Beverly Lehay,

where Tim Lehay describes an explicitly clear rape story.

He even calls it rape in his book about how this woman was in an arranged

marriage situation and on her wedding night her husband pinned her down while

she was screaming no and forced her to have sex with him and his reaction to the

story was how sad it was that you know she wasn't able to have a good

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