How are you excited to be having a conversation with someone when they have that revelation.

It's making a short pretty huge.

How does this work as a national story?

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Every year, The New Yorker throws a huge festival that lasts the whole weekend. We bring in all kinds of people from the arts,

entertainment, politics, history, technology, everything for live conversations with the New Yorkers,

writers, and editors. Today we're going to hear two of those events. The singer and songwriter Andrew

Bird will talk with a fan of his, Atul Gawande, who's a medical reporter for the New Yorker,

and he's also a practicing surgeon, and when he's in the operating room, he listens to Andrew

Bird's music. But we're going to start off in a very different place in the end game of the

presidential election that just will not go away. We've assembled a group of experts to talk about

the first term of President Trump. Yeah, I said it, President Trump. Now, as of today, that might

seem hypothetical. Let's put it that way. Our panelists met on the weekend the Billy Bush tape hit the

news,

and Trump's fall in the poll was already starting to spiral downward.

But as Harry Truman reminds us, by way of Casey Stengel, it ain't over till it's over.

And the way this godforsaken election has gone,

with videotapes turning up and Russians hacking and accusations of rigging,

it would be a mistake to pretend that a Clinton victory is an absolute lock. So let's take a few

minutes to consider seriously. What would a Trump administration look like? You might want to

grab a libation of some sort. The conversation includes Roger Stone,

a political strategist who calls himself a Goldwater conservative. First of all, thank you for having me

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