Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.

A treat up.

Thank you for coming on the show over the last, what, 38, 40 days of this war and even beforehand and helping us think this through.

What do you think to be helpful to try to get this thing sorted, right? What do you think would be, what do you think to be helpful to try to get this thing sorted right what do you think would be what

do you would be helpful from president trump today at one o'clock and then from uh the persians

how do you anticipate if we're if we're to get anywhere or just keep slugging it out because

president trump's not a you know he's a guy who says, hey, look, if this is what you

want to do, we'll just slug it out.

What are your thoughts on that?

Well, let's first better understand what slugging it out with me.

You know, Trump went in here with some clear objectives.

It didn't work out because it was based on a false understanding of the reality on the ground that had been sold to him by the Israelis.

But at this point, when you listen carefully to what he's saying, it appears that as if our

options here have been reduced to the Israeli strategy of mowing the lawn, which the

Israelis use against Lebanon, against the Palestinians, which is every six months to two years,

they just go back to bombing them, just to make sure that they can never actually end up

achieving anything that could pose a challenge to Israel. So it's not a solution, it's just a constant state of warfare.

And this is how the Israelis have pursued their immediate security in the region

because they have kind of given up or not been interested in actually achieving peace.

So they're in this endless state of warfare.

And Trump has said that he's just going to take out as much as possible, bomb them back

to the Stone Age, and added to that, and then the next president may have to go back and

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