crashed near the strait of Hormuz.

The lone pilot was safely rescued.

MS Now has not confirmed this news yet.

Joining us, former Undersecretary of State for diplomacy,

for public diplomacy and public affairs,

and MS Now political analyst Rick Stengel,

staff writer for the Atlantic and MS now political analyst,

Ashley Parker, retired four-star Atlantic and MS now political analyst, Ashley Parker, retired four-star

general and MS now military analyst, General Barry McCaffrey, and former U.S. Army officer,

captain in the JAG Corps, and former assistant U.S. attorney for the District of Connecticut.

Margaret Donovan, it's great to have all of you. General McCaffrey, I'm going to

start with you. What is your take? What are you watching for with this story of the downing of

F-15 fighter jet? What does it signify to you about where this war is headed?

Well, obviously, it underscores the fact there's no such thing as a safe combat operation in an F-15E Eagle.

You know, it's a magnificent aircraft, twin engine, 1,500 miles an hour, two pilots used in ground and air-day air action.

But they got one.

And the question may be it was a man-pad, hand-carried anti-aircraft missile, or possibly just a 50-calibre machine gun.

You know, the saying used to be in Vietnam, a big sky little bullet.

But by the way, to underscore the political change in the nature of air warfare,

in Vietnam, we lost 3,700 fixed-wing aircraft in over 4,000 helicopters,

half of them accidents, half of them in combat actions.

So the change of reality, we've flown over 10,000 sorties in Iran,

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