Times reports that the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, met with federal agents the day after the FBI raid on a Georgia election center.

According to three people with knowledge of the meeting, at one point, Gabrid pulled out her cell phone and called President Trump, which is totally not normal.

She put the president on speakerphone, and then he proceeded to ask the FBI agents questions before praising them for their work on the investigation in Fulton County.

Again, that is not normal. Why is that not normal?

Because the FBI is supposed to be independent from the White House, Katie.

And it would be one thing if the president was calling some FBI agents who had just participated in a dangerous operation to grab a fugitive overseas.

This is an investigation that goes directly to Donald Trump's political agenda and to the conspiracy theories that he's been spinning about the

2020 election. And we don't know the extent to which, we don't know the evidence that they

have that allowed a federal magistrate judge to approve that search warrant. But we do know

that Donald Trump is trying to suggest that this evidence bolsters some of the wackadoodle

conspiracy theories that he's been spinning for a long time about Italian satellites and voting machines that flip votes in Georgia and all kinds of things that have been totally debunked.

And I can tell you, look, I haven't confirmed this to the satisfaction of MS now, but I caught wind of this story.

And I have no reason to doubt any of the details that have been reported.

And my understanding is the agents were very, very disturbed and concerned by the whole

appearance and the whole way that this played out, because to have Donald Trump with an

interest in the outcome of this investigation, getting on the phone and talking to them,

it's just not how things are done. What he talked about after the 2020 election when he lost but refused to admit it, right? Mike Flynn, we talked about him just a minute ago, came to the Oval Office along with Sidney Powell and a couple others, and they urged him to use the military to seize the voting machines. He didn't do that at the time. But just the other day,

when he talked to my colleagues from the New York Times, he actually expressed some regret that he

didn't. He said he should have used the military to seize voting machines in 2020. So the election,

the lesson that he's taken from that election is not to keep your hands off an election,

but in fact, to do more to try to control it.

And he's talking about taking over 15 states.

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