This is Biz, and if hosting One Bad Mother for over 10 years has taught me anything,

it's that parenting is hard and nobody gives a shit. So belly up to the low bar,

where fine is good enough and you'll never feel alone. This is One Bad Mother.

This week on One Bad Mother, we find ourselves trying to find comfort and how low the low bar

can be. With Laura Cathcart Robbins, author of Stash, My Life and Hiding, welcome Laura.

Thank you for the song. So welcome. It's early, and I'm recovering from the field trip.

One whale of a field trip. It was a whale of everybody. Yeah, we're just going to keep you on

pins and needles about the field trip, because I want to talk with Laura before I share that

choice that I made. Speaking of choices, Laura, who lives in your house? Who lives in my house is

Scott, who is my boyfriend. He's the co-host and producer of My Podcast, the only one in the room,

and he's also kind of the co-host and producer of My Life, my professional life.

He really is. I mean, not just my professional life. Like he's, he grocery shops, he cooks,

he makes sure that I'm fed, you know, he's just like one of those, those menchie guys. And the

other person that lives in my house right now is we had twin labor doodles until Thanksgiving.

They were 14, and we lost Venus, so we still have Serena. So Serena is...

Oh, well, you named him after the tennis stars. That's the best. We did. We did. So she is 14.

Is it a little telling? You know, Serena is still here. Yeah, Venus. I mean, like,

I always feel bad for Venus. I'm like, Venus, you are your own person. If I are, you pass it late,

being... Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, oh, I'm very sorry. Thank you. Thank you.

You're a loss. Yeah. But I'm glad Serena is still going strong. You've got two children too.

I do. They don't have to be, they can totally come in that order. Yes.

After the labor doodles. May I ask how old they are at this stage? Yeah. My oldest one is 25,

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