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🗓️ 2 March 2022
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and the heroic resistance the Russian troops have encountered raises new questions about patriotism. When is love for our country godly, and when does it unknowingly lead to evil? Plus, a new study tries to define Christian nationalism, explain why Black and White Christian nationalists are so different, and advise how to prevent the heresy from spreading in churches. Then, David Kinnaman, President of the Barna Group, is back for another “Barna Brief.” His latest research finds over 70 percent of pastors are very concerned about the spread of Christian nationalism, but most aren’t sure what to do about it. And - why measuring church attendance says almost nothing about a church’s spiritual health or effectiveness at making disciples.
News Segment:
0:00 - Intro
4:20 - Ukraine and patriotism
February French Friday episode - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-putin-pentecostals-christian-nationalism
Interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie
23:50 - Christian nationalism and race
“Christian Nationalism and the January 6, 2021 Insurrection” report - https://bjconline.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Christian_Nationalism_and_the_Jan6_Insurrection-2-9-22.pdf
“Theology Cannot Save Us” article - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/february-web-only/christian-theology-evangelicalism-cannot-save-us.html
“Trayvon Martin’s Murder and the Death of the Evangelical Racial Reconciliation Movement” article - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/trayvon-martins-murder-and-the-death?utm_source=url&s=r
Sponsor
47:51 - Faithful Counseling
faithfulcounseling.com/holypost
Barna Brief with David Kinnaman:
49:44 - Interview start
51:40 - Reception to data on pastors
53:59 - Measuring effectiveness of discipleship
1:14:03 - Pastors’ concerns about Christian nationalism
1:23:40 - End
To learn more about Barna’s initiatives for supporting pastors, go to Barna.com/ResilientPastor
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0:00.0 | Welcome to The Holy Post. On today's episode, Ukrainians are courageously resisting the Russian invasion of their country. |
0:06.8 | Some say this is more evidence that patriotism is a godly virtue that we ought to cultivate, |
0:12.2 | but Phil remains somewhat unconvinced. |
0:14.8 | Then a new report by the Baptist seeks to define Christian nationalism, |
0:19.4 | explain why it's so different among white and black Americans, |
0:23.2 | and what we are to do about its spread in the church. |
0:26.2 | Then David Kinnaman is back for another Barnabreaf, where he explains some new research about the way churches are trying to measure whether or not they're effective at actually making followers of Jesus, |
0:36.2 | and he talks about what pastors are doing to fight Christian nationalism in their churches. |
0:40.9 | Here is episode 498. |
0:43.2 | Hey, that welcome back to the show. This is Phil Vissier. It's the Holy Post podcast. I'm here with Skyjitani. Hi, Sky. |
0:48.7 | Hi, Phil. |
0:49.7 | Hi, and Christian Taylor. Hi, Christian. |
0:52.3 | Hey, Phil. How are you doing today? |
0:53.8 | Good, thanks. And Jason. Hi, Jason. Hey there. |
0:57.6 | Hi, what's your hat, Jason? Sky and I were just talking about this. |
1:02.6 | That's a hat. |
1:03.6 | So I went to a one-republic concert right before the pandemic, and actually, |
1:07.4 | and one of their albums has this logo on it, and I just thought it was cool. |
1:11.2 | And so I bought it. |
1:12.2 | Okay. |
1:13.0 | I think Sky's asked me about it maybe five times at this point. |
1:16.0 | Every time we go, what's your head? |
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