Episode 47: Trans Kids

In Bed With The Right

Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.8 • 662 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Moira walks Adrian through the right wing fixation on trans kids and the way it is reshaping our politics. In early December, the US Supreme Court heard US v. Skrmetti, and is almost certain to uphold a Tennessee law banning most forms of gender-affirming care for minors. In 2016, a trans bathroom ban in North Carolina led to a nationwide outcry and boycotts. Eight years later, laws like Tennessee's SB1 have passed in a majority of US States, and the outcry is comparatively muted. What happened?

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Adrienne Daub.
0:08.1	And I'm Moira Donagan.
0:09.5	Whether we like it or not, we're in bed with the right.
0:13.8	So, Adrienne, today we are talking about one of the smallest groups in the United States, who are subject to one of the smallest groups in the United States who are subject to one of the most
0:24.1	outsized political campaigns. That's right. We're going to be talking today about trans
0:30.1	kids. Yeah. So what do you know about trans kids? I mean, what you say? I know that the amount of
0:37.3	real estate that they appear to occupy
0:39.6	in the conservative imagination and media ecosystem seems wildly disproportionate from their
0:46.8	position in society and from their numbers.
0:49.3	And I get the impression that, as has never happened before in the history of LGBT rights and the
0:56.0	contentious debates around them, people seem to be saying they're talking about trans kids
1:02.5	when they really want to govern what goes on with trans adults. Right. The kids are both subjects
1:09.5	who have their own qualities that incite a lot of anger and rage in the right wing imagination. And they are also this kind of like cipher or a prism through which other anxieties, really anxieties about grownups, get sort of put to the test or sublimated into perhaps a on its face more respectable anxiety or fear.
1:32.4	So I wanted to talk about trans kids today because I spent part of this week writing about and
1:39.3	listening to oral arguments in a Supreme Court case called US versus Scrimetti.
1:43.9	Have you heard anything about this? I have, yes. So what do.S. v. Scrimetti. Have you heard anything about this?
1:45.2	I have, yes. So what do you know about U.S. versus Scrimetti? So it's a case out of Tennessee,
1:50.4	and it's about a law in Tennessee banning, I believe, transition care for minors. Is that correct?
1:58.6	Yeah. So this is a law in Tennessee referred to, hopefully, as
2:02.4	HB1. Do not try and Google that because you will get a hundred different laws.
2:08.7	Tennessee HB1 was passed in 2023, and it outlaws basically all transition-related care for anybody
2:16.3	under the age of 18, right? And it bans the use of
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