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I feel like there's a safety in writing that is not as diving headfirst into trauma work.

It's the space where we can put it out there and making a

thing. And then we're talking about this thing that somebody's creating, whether it's fiction,

a poetry, or a memoir. But the internal process of being able to write it is this incredible

healing, meaning-making thing, which I consider spirituality.

You're listening to Make Some Noise Podcast, episode number 469, with guest Roxanne McDonald.

Welcome to Make Some Noise Podcast, your guide for strategies, tools, and insight to empower yourself.

I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur life coach since 2007,

an author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22 countries. Each week, I'll bring you a guest

or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable confidence, master resilience,

and make some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go.

Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the podcast. I'm so glad that you're here.

As I mentioned, I think last week in my intro, you would be astounded at the amount of times I start and start over these intros.

You know what it feels like? I just realized it feels like when you go to a party or some kind of network event or some kind of socializing and you're super awkward. I mean,

I'm an extrovert and I'm awkward. People are surprised sometimes when I tell them that and I'm like,

I don't know if other extroverts are also awkward or if

it just comes so naturally to them, but it does not come naturally to me. I don't know if it's

mental health stuff or what. But anyway, you know when you go and you're awkward and then you're

like, either thinking about or obsessing on how you sounded stupid or like you wish you could say that

over. And that's what this is. The good news is that I get to start over. The bad news is sometimes

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