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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 45: Where Did Identity Politics Come From?

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

News, Politics, Music, Arts, Books, Music History

51000 Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On episode 45, Charles admits that he missed the podcast's anniversary. Then he talks to Yascha Mounk about his new book, 'The Identity Trap: A Story of Ideas and Power in Our Time.' Among the topics discussed are where identity politics comes from, how it spread so fast over the last ten years, why it's a problem, whether opposition to it should be moral or practical or both, and what will happen if it's not checked.

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0:00.0

The Welcome to episode 45 of the Charles C. W. Cook podcast, the one strategically placed after my voice

0:31.2

had come back.

0:34.8

Look, I got so busy with life

0:38.2

that I forgot to note this podcast's anniversary, which passed unmarked and un-celebrated 17 days ago.

0:51.8

I guess in the long run I'll pay for that. Had I remembered I could have got a small gift and organized a nice dinner out but having forgotten I'm now on the

1:08.4

hook for at least a spa day and probably a shopping expedition as well as of course being reminded each and every time I

1:16.8

publish a new episode about that time I forgot about the anniversary until 17 whole days had passed.

1:25.0

When I was putting on my headphones at the start of this session,

1:32.0

I could absolutely swear that I heard the podcast tell me in

1:37.2

hush tones that I never seem to forget which NFL games are on which day, which is of course true.

1:47.2

So I can only apologize and say that if it's any consolation,

1:51.2

I have greatly enjoyed the year that the podcast and I have spent together and I hope for many more in the future.

2:01.0

A lot of people have written to me since last episode and asked for an account of the NFL game I took my dad to in London and you're in luck. I wrote that trip up for the first issue of the new monthly

2:22.4

National Review magazine and you can find that

2:26.7

online if you have a subscription. I'll put the link in the show notes of this episode.

2:35.0

Long story short, it was terrific.

2:38.0

My dad loved the game and the sport,

2:41.0

and the jaguers won, beating the bills 25 to 20.

2:46.0

Now not everyone knows this but if you read between the lines in the Federalist papers

2:52.0

you'll find James Madison and Alexander Hamilton explaining that

2:57.4

while they have many hopes for the new country and its legal system, prime among them, is that the Jaguars will go on a bunch of

3:07.0

unbeaten runs. So there it is. That victory was both desirable and constitutional.

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