This time we were living in Chambers Road and there were documents related to the Penn Biden Center or the Biden

or cancer from your shot or your book.

Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working?

Well that you were actively working.

Well, I don't know. This is what, 2017-18 period?

Yes, sir.

Remember, in this time frame, my son is either been deployed or is dying.

And so it was, and by the way, there were still a lot of people at the time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, except the president.

I'm not being, they're not a mean thing to say. to run in this period, except the president.

I'm not being, they're not a mean thing to say.

I mean, he just thought that she had a better shot

of winning the president than I did.

And so I hadn't, I hadn't at this point, even though I'm at

pen, I hadn't walked away from the idea that I may run for office again

but if I ran again it would be running for president

and and so what was happening though

when one to both died of May 30 May he started his uh 2019 in 2015 he died

was in 2015 I think it's 2015 I'm not sure the months or but I think that was

yeah that's right mr. president and what's happened in the meantime is that as Trump gets elected in November of 2017, 2016.

All right.

So, what I have, 2017? 2016 all right so

That's when you left office in January of 2017 okay

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