Get selected a new pope.

The second vote of the day just wrapped up just before the show started with black smoke rising from the top of the Sistine Chapel.

The ballots are only burned after two rounds of voting unless a selection is made.

Yesterday we also saw black smoke rise above the Sistine Chapel.

If we see white, if we see white smoke, it signifies there is a new leader of the Catholic Church.

A two-thirds majority needs to be reached in order for that to happen.

Two more votes will be held today.

Out of the more, 250 cardinals in Vatican City, only 133 are eligible to vote under those the age of 80 can cast a ballot.

Your sense of how you believe the church may go after Pope Francis in terms of its choice of a new pontiff.

Well, right, that's the big question. In terms of the electoral process, things are kind of going as you'd

expect. We'd be very surprised if there was white smoke, either last night or today. Now, possibly the

end of today. Pope Francis was elected on that fifth ballot. My guess is tomorrow. I think it might be a little

more divided conclave. We heard during the general congregations, those discussions before the

conclave, that there were disagreements about the direction of the church. Some wanted to go,

you know, very much with the Francis momentum. Others felt this was problematic. One of the difficulties in talking about the church is we tend to look at it through our Western lens. And so we have certain preoccupations, usually around questions of sexual morality. But go to Africa, for instance, where the church is burgeoning, but also under great persecution.

Go to the church in Asia, and you see the interreligious dialogue is of huge importance.

So they're considering all these different dimensions of the church's life.

And there's something, you know, happening inside the walls of that Sistine Chapel right now.

And we'll see.

My sense is it might be a little more divided than it was last time.

Also, I'd say, speak politically, last time the more liberal faction was better organized.

This time I know the conservatives were better organized going into the conflict.

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