Episode 446: “Too Black”... Hip Hop Superstar Lecrae on His Relationship With White Evangelicalism

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 3 March 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Filling his songs with faith and the theology of respected white leaders like John Piper and Tim Keller, Lecrae became a darling of white evangelicalism. When he spoke out against racial injustice in 2017, all that began to change. Grammy-winning singer/songwriter, record producer and Christian activist Lecrae sits down with Phil to talk about being called “too Black,” Fallkirk Center co-founder Charlie Kirk’s recent attempt to “cancel” him, and, in the midst of it all, why he still has hope for the church.

Plus - was that really a golden statue at CPAC?? Seriously??

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0:00.0	Hey there, this is Phil. Welcome back to the Holypost podcast. I am here with so many people.
0:06.1	I'm here with Christian Taylor. Hi, Christian. Hello, Phil. How are you today?
0:09.6	Good. Welcome back. I'm here with Jason Rugg. Hi, Jason. Hey there. Hi, Jason. We got your
0:16.1	mic working. So that's good. We're using new technology because technology, I don't know if you
0:20.7	know this, but it changes. It changes fast. Yeah, we were supposed to start recording about 15 minutes
0:27.2	ago and it's just been there was some small talk. Yeah, but mostly technology, mostly tech. Yeah,
0:33.3	mostly. We've had, it's, we've had worse. We've had, we were supposed to start recording a half
0:37.2	an hour ago about technology. And Skyjitani. Hi, Sky. Hi. Sky says he's not grumpy today, but
0:46.4	you just assume not so sure. You just assume if I appear, I must be grumpy and that's just not fair, Phil.
0:51.7	Okay, Sky is here and he just wants the whole world to know he is not grumpy. So you can all listen
1:01.2	to the rest of the show and decide if he's telling us the truth or not. Okay, here's a theme song.
1:30.1	Guest interview today. La Cray is on the show. We went long. I interviewed him. It went kind of
1:34.8	long. So we don't want to waste like 40 minutes getting to that interview. So this is going to be
1:40.5	a bit short on the news segment. So we can get to La Cray. If you don't know who he is, you know,
1:46.4	first of all, that's kind of silly, but he's, he kind of put Christian hip hop on the map. He's
1:51.1	won multiple Grammys and he does all. I give a whole list of the things he's currently involved in
1:57.2	in the interview, which will shock and astound you and make you feel like you haven't done very much
2:01.9	in your life. But it's a it's a good interview on the kind of onion his journey from not being heavily
2:11.6	churched as a kid to being exposed to church first, the black church and then the white church
2:18.9	and realizing that they're kind of different and then becoming a recording artist that's very,
2:23.6	very popular in the white church and then speaking out more about racial justice and suddenly
2:32.4	finding himself less popular with the white church. So that's what we talk about is that
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