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Episode 43: Shame

HOME Podcast

Laura McKowen & Holly Whitaker

Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2016

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Perhaps the most difficult aspect in overcoming addiction is shame. In this episode, the girls talk about the pervasiveness of shame and how it shaped their lives, how it played into their drinking, and how they learned to work with it. Laura talks about the particular shame of being a mother who drank, and how she's coped with that in sobriety. Music by Radiation City.

Transcript

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0:00.0

There is hope for us yet.

0:04.0

We are young, we are wet.

0:07.8

I am Holly Whitaker.

0:11.7

And I am Laura McCowan.

0:14.8

And this is Home Podcast.

0:18.9

Good morning.

0:20.4

Good morning. We're just a Good morning.

0:30.5

You were just talking about the power of coffee and in transforming one.

0:33.7

Rapid transformation of Holly.

0:35.3

Mm-hmm.

0:36.8

Yep.

0:44.4

Yeah, you texted me that you had, you texted me yourself with like a zombie face and then about seven minutes later you were on Skype.

0:47.7

No, and then I was on Skype and for the first 10 minutes, it was, it was an angry mess.

0:53.7

And then when the coffee kicked in, I don't know if it's,

0:58.5

I don't know how quick it actually takes for caffeine to work. I notice a difference the second I

1:05.6

smell it. Yeah, that's true. I think that's like the psychosomatic aspect. Yeah, for sure. But fuck.

1:13.6

It's like I used to feel better when I would see the bar. Okay, okay, we're safe. We're safe.

1:19.7

Right, right, right, right. Well, it's true. I mean, there is, there is a psychosomatic part around

1:25.0

drinking, which is when you are, when you want, like, when you want it, the relief comes before you take a drink.

1:32.5

The relief comes when you know you're going to get it.

1:34.3

That's been shown and proven that it's not.

1:37.4

Yeah.

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