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The Holy Post

Episode 421: Culture Warriors, Punching Protesters, & the Sacred Overlap with J.R. Briggs

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.54.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2020

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Why does everything feel like it's "us vs. them" these days? Pastor and author J.R. Briggs says it's because we've been taught to see everything as either/or, while Jesus modeled how to live in the tension of both/and. Briggs calls the space between opposing ideas the "sacred overlap." He talks to Skye about the role of mystery and paradox in Christian theology, and how it applies to contemporary issues. Also this week, why using war rhetoric to describe our Christian mission is very unchristian. Clean comedian, Jim Gaffigan, unloads on Trump in a profanity-filled Twitter rant. Did Eric Metaxas punch someone and then run through Washington D.C. backwards? Plus—beetles, frogs, and butts.

 

"The Sacred Overlap: Learning to Live Faithfully in the Space Between," by J.R. Briggs: https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Overlap-Learning-Faithfully-Resources/dp/031010212X

 

"If You're Fighting the Culture War, You're Losing" by Cap Stewart: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/if-youre-fighting-the-culture-war-youre-losing/

 

"Jim Gaffigan calls Trump 'liar and a criminal,' slams 'Trumpers' in series of tweets": https://variety.com/2020/politics/news/jim-gaffigan-trump-twitter-rant-1234752423/

 

"Eric Metaxas confirms he punched protester, says protester was to blame": https://religionnews.com/2020/09/01/eric-metaxas-protester-menaced-punch-video-trump-rnc/

 

"These Water Beetles Make Their Escape Out of Frog's Butt After Being Swallowed": https://www.sciencealert.com/these-water-beetles-can-houdini-their-way-out-of-a-frog-butt-after-being-swallowed

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, welcome back to the show. This is the Holypost podcast. I'm Phil Vichier. I am here with Skyjitani.

0:05.8

Hi Phil.

0:06.8

Hi Sky, how are you?

0:08.1

I'm alright.

0:09.0

Alright, we do not have Christian this week. We used to do it where we rotated and some weeks Christian

0:14.1

would be there. Some weeks would just be Sky and I. Some weeks we would have Drew Dick or Caitlin

0:19.3

Bady or someone else sitting on in the third chair. And then it was just Sky and I for quite a while.

0:25.4

While Christian went off to make a movie and then she came back from the movie and was around all

0:29.3

the time. So then she started showing up all the time. And since she's now available just about

0:33.9

every week, we're now moving back. Well, let's still rotate it a little bit. So sometimes it's

0:38.1

just Sky and I and then sometimes someone else might show up in that third seat.

0:42.9

And this whole pandemic thing has lasted a little longer than we may have anticipated at the

0:47.0

beginning, right? The pandemic. So none of us are traveling. We're all readily available. So we're

0:52.6

just mixing it up a bit more. Christian is not in the hospital or away. We're just doing a Sky

0:59.8

Phil solo and we have some really good meaty long interviews. So we wanted to keep the front

1:07.3

ends a little shorter to get to the good meaty long juicy interviews. And with that, here's the theme song.

1:22.6

It's breakfast. Get your toasted Sky and fill in the holy post Sky and fill in the holy post.

1:31.5

And sometimes Christian Sky, do you like a good meaty juicy interview?

1:39.2

Oh, you know, as much as the next guy as much as the next guy. We're recording. We are recording

1:45.5

this on Labor Day. Happy Labor Day, Sky. Is that something people say? I don't know. I don't know.

1:54.1

Now Memorial Day, you don't say happy Memorial Day because you're memor- memorializing people

2:00.0

who have died. Right. Labor Day, what are you doing? What are we doing? Memorializing labor?

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