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In Bed With The Right

Episode 42: 2024 Election Debrief, Part I

In Bed With The Right

Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Sexuality

4.8662 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Moira and Adrian delve reluctantly into the horror, the horror -- aka the results of the 2024 presidential election. We didn't realize it when we recorded it, but this will be first installment in a series. This episode touches on split ticket voting, post-election anti-wokeness debates, the "tech bro" narrative.

In the episode, we also mention Kate Manne's Substack essay "Trump's Election is a Triumph of Rape Culture" -- and we point folks to the new IBWTR Patreon! Like and subscribe, as they say!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Adrian Dobb. And I'm Moywardanagan. And this is in Bed with the Right, doing an election debrief. So I don't know why I sounded so pretty just now. Yeah, I mean, I have been dreading this one, Adrian.

0:17.6

It's like it's a root canal. We won't be a bummer for the whole time.

0:21.5

You know, we're going to try and see what we can learn, both from the results themselves and

0:27.6

from sort of the conversation surrounding the election results. And then we're going to try and

0:32.3

look forward and try and get this all in perspective and see what it means for American gender politics going forward, which I think looks very different on this side.

0:42.8

We've held off. We thought about doing an immediate reaction that was just going to be as going, fuck.

0:48.2

Yeah, like me crying. I don't know. It would not have been great for our listeners.

0:53.1

Like me eating pudding very quietly.

0:56.2

You know, while I'm when I cries, that's my coping.

0:59.2

I'm not super-emosh, but I do kind of love me a pudding when I really need it.

1:04.1

But there is a reason other than we didn't want to, why we didn't do this right away.

1:09.7

Because I have, I personally have this B in my bonnet when it

1:12.2

comes to any election analysis, right, that like, it has to kind of include two things. There's

1:17.3

what happened in the election and then there's what the various actors, whether they're political

1:21.3

parties, the press, et cetera, et cetera, sort of like think or frame happened. And those three

1:27.2

things usually aren't totally unrelated, but they're

1:29.5

not the same thing, right? The question of which groups and which messages made a difference.

1:35.3

And the question who the incoming government thinks made a difference. Like, those are two separate

1:39.8

questions. And a lot of the early punditry, you couldn't tell whether this was a genuine reading of,

1:46.7

you know, let's be clear, a vote picture that is still emerging. There's still, I believe,

1:51.1

votes being counted in parts of the country as we record this. And how much of it was just

1:56.2

pundits kind of beating up on their favorite targets that they would have beaten up on no matter what the

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