Episode 40: Pappy

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7 • 38.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2016

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

When it comes to Kentucky bourbon, Pappy Van Winkle is among the most exclusive, according to food writer Brett Anderson. The bourbon is prized for its wheat base and special barrels for aging, handpicked by Julian Van Winkle III, the president of Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery. It doesn't matter who you are or how much money you have -- you can't get it unless you're exceptionally lucky or willing to break the law. The Pappy frenzy has law enforcement, bartenders, and even the Van Winkle family themselves wringing their hands. Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Generally the way I've drank Pappy in my life has been in the company of someone who
0:09.4	has a bottle squirtle away, sometimes under their coat, sometimes under the seat of their
0:15.3	car.
0:16.3	Brett Anderson is the restaurant critic for the Times
0:18.7	Piggy Un in New Orleans.
0:21.0	Last year he tried to buy a bottle of bourbon called Pappy Van Winkle for a wedding gift.
0:26.7	He knew it wasn't going to be easy.
0:29.0	Pappy Van Winkle is one of the hardest bottles of bourbon in the world to get your hands
0:33.3	on.
0:34.5	People camp outside liquor stores when they know the small annual allotment is going to
0:39.3	be released.
0:40.6	And then it's off the shelf in three minutes.
0:43.6	I naively thought that I would be able to just sort of Google it, you know, and of course
0:51.4	you can't, you know, like the, but that's how stupid I was going in all.
0:56.3	What do you mean?
0:57.3	Why can't you just Google it?
0:58.3	You can Google it like you can get anything, right?
1:01.5	Well I thought I'd just end up on some website and I'd pay some extort, you know, exorbitant
1:05.6	amount for a bottle of Pappy and a choke in the mail.
1:08.5	But you can't, I don't believe just legally do that as a seller, right?
1:16.5	Like there's been, I've been in so many conversations where people are talking about prices per
1:23.0	bottle for Pappy that I thought that the marketplace would be more accessible.
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