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The Lawfare Podcast

Episode #39: Laura Dean on the Bloodbath in Egypt

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2013

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Ben interviews Laura Dean, Lawfare's Cairo Diarist, about the coup in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, and freelancing the revolution.

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0:44.3

Hello and welcome to the LawFair podcast, I'm Benjamin Whittes. Today on the podcast, Laura

0:51.2

Dean, already well known to LawFair readers as the author of our chiro diary. Laura, for

0:58.1

those who haven't been following the diary, is a chiro-based freelance writer who has worked

1:03.8

for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as a journalist and as an election monitor in

1:08.8

a number of countries in the region. She's in the United States for a spell and I reached

1:14.2

her by phone in Maine to discuss goings on in Egypt, the military there, the Muslim Brotherhood,

1:21.2

and life amid the revolution.

1:23.4

So Laura, how does somebody end up being a freelance writer in chiro in the middle of a revolution?

1:29.5

Well, it's been a bit of a roundabout route. I grew up in Bahrain, which is a small island

1:38.1

nexus out of Arabia, and so have sort of built in interests, both personal and professional

1:45.2

for the Middle East. Unfortunately, I didn't learn Arabic really growing up and so I studied

1:51.4

it in college, which sort of brought me back again and again to different parts of the region.

1:57.2

After college, I did a stint in journalism in DC and then ended up working at the Senate Foreign

2:04.1

Relations Committee, focusing mostly on Middle East issues. And then I was always already looking

2:10.3

for a way to get back to the region and then when the sort of uprisings that then came to

2:17.9

be known as the Arab Spring started happening, I became almost desperate to get back and then

2:25.1

I found a job working as an election observer starting out in Tunisia and then migrating over

2:32.3

to Egypt and I eventually ended up in Libya doing that work. I had always wanted to get back

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