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National Review's Radio Free California Podcast

Episode 387: San Francisco’s ‘New Pragmatism’

National Review's Radio Free California Podcast

National Review

Politics, News, National Review, Conservatism, Government, California, Conservative

4.8708 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

With the election of former member of congress Barbara Lee for mayor, Oakland voters have brought the pain (to themselves) while San Francisco Democrats are calling for a “new pragmatism.” Also: Newsom sues Trump over tariffs while doing his absolute best to kill business in California. Music by Metalachi.

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0:00.0

Thank you.

0:13.0

That's California for welcome to the April 22nd edition of National Review's Radio Free California Podcast.

0:19.0

I'm Will Swain, president of the California Policy Center.

0:22.6

You can find my colleagues and me at California PolicyCenter.org.

0:26.4

You can find my friend and co-host, David Bonson, right here.

0:29.0

He's an economist.

0:29.9

He's the host of the Capitol Record podcast, an author of the book, Full Time, Work and the

0:34.1

Meaning of Life.

0:34.7

And, of course, he's founder of the eponymous investment firm, the Bunsen Group. Good morning, David. Where do we find you? Good morning, Will, from Dallas, Texas,

0:44.0

the newest site of a TBG office. And I will add one of the greatest cities in America.

0:52.9

Why do you say that?

0:57.0

Not just because you're there in opening a new office, I presume.

0:59.9

Well, it's sort of a backwards thing there.

1:02.7

We're not, it's not the greatest city because we're opening an office here.

1:05.1

We're opening an office here because it's one of the greatest cities.

1:09.2

And it's one of the greatest cities for a lot of reasons.

1:11.5

First of all, I love cities.

1:18.6

And it is a city that has a real kind of red state sensibility to it.

1:22.1

But it's also very cosmopolitan.

1:25.4

It's very Texan.

1:28.2

And those two things are not at odds.

1:31.7

There's a certain style about it that people that are from here know what I mean.

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