Hello and welcome to another kale-fueled mayhem episode of We Only Look Thin.

I am one of your host, Donald Weigel, and I have lost about 100 pounds.

I've kept it off for about seven years.

And with me, as always, is Catherine Weigel, a tiny habit certified coach, Thrive, Global Certified Coach.

I have lost over 100 pounds and kept it off for over seven years.

And kale is a tricky, tricky vegetable.

Is it a vegetable?

I guess it's a vegetable.

Yeah, totally a vegetable.

Yeah, I have a complicated relationship with kale.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I feel very grateful that society advanced far enough where I didn't have to figure out how to make things taste good.

Like the whole like wheat process and rice and like you've got to take kale, which is basically inedible and you got to massage it for an hour and like put vinegar on it to make it even palatable.

Yeah.

I don't know that I have the patience in the world to actually be the person who figures out if things are good for you or can taste

good. I suppose if you're hungry enough and all you have is kale, maybe you would take the time

to massage it for an hour to see if that makes it better.

Do you want to massage things for an hour to see if they're, like do you just?

I don't know who figured that out.

Do you just, like with the whole wheat thing,

okay, let's just go back there.

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