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One time for the under down.

Ignition sequence star.

Let me see you put them up.

Reach the skies, let the stars up above because it's one time for the underdog one time for the

underdough I'm Patrick made the host of value Taman and today sit down as with the

former chief disguise officer the government who used to be with the CIA chief disguise officer, the government,

who used to be with the CIA,

she gets paid to disguise faces

so you don't recognize him.

Yes, that's exactly what she does.

And it's very interesting, we got into the details

of what makes a great CIA agent and her answer will shock you.

Jonah, could she have you on the show with us?

Good to be here.

So what does it take to be a CIA agent?

I mean, how do I become a CIA agent?

If I'm growing up, I'm saying one day I want to be a CIA agent. I mean how do I become a CIA agent if I'm growing up I'm saying one day I want to be a

CIA agent how do I do it? You know most of the CIA people I met didn't grow up wanting to be

one. They all kind of they came into it through all kinds of different doors. The main motivation is desire to serve your country.

And they find very unique possibilities in working for the CIA. You're not working at

GSA, you're not in the military, but you are supporting your country, you're

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