Episode 364: Just Outside the Line

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

True Crime, Society & Culture, News

4.5 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

She did everything right. She kept the records. Filed the reports. Changed her routines. But none of it mattered. Because the man tormenting her stayed just outside the rules. A case where psychological terror was real, constant, and intentional- and yet, legally invisible. In episode 364, Jac and Lex unravel how stalking can become a form of slow-motion violence. How the system waits for blood before it acts. And how, sometimes, the most dangerous threats are the ones hiding in plain sight, waiting, watching, and never quite crossing the line. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon: patreon.com/thefirstdegree 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree 🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee 👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The first degree.
0:02.0	First degree.
0:03.0	First degree.
0:04.0	First degree.
0:05.0	First degree.
0:06.0	First degree.
0:07.0	The first degree.
0:08.0	You see it on the news.
0:10.0	You see it on the paper.
0:11.0	You see it on Facebook.
0:13.0	These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.
0:16.0	I'm carrying a weapon with me at this point because I'm terrified.
0:25.6	I feel like I can't live my life.
0:27.7	And then I'm like, what if this person follows me back to my home?
0:31.2	So now I'm at my house.
0:32.8	I'm scared.
0:35.0	Welcome to the first degree, the true crime podcast that you might end up on. My name is Jack Vannick. I'm sitting here with Alexis Linkletter. What's up, Alex? What's up everyone? What's up everyone? God, we were just talking about how much we love our first degree community. Like it really, it's expanding. It's going in so many different directions. And it makes us so happy. We love you.
0:56.9	I got to tell you, I spend like 90% of the week on like really thinking about it and like trying to make, we both do.
1:05.7	I know we spend a lot of time talking about it and how to just make it better, how to make it feel, you know, more like a community
1:12.3	because it is so great.
1:14.8	I know.
1:15.6	And I wish there was a Facebook that was less about Facebook, like, because everyone meeting
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