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Today on the show, I get to talk to Sheila Walls. Y'all she is the author of more than 30 books that have sold nearly six million copies.

You probably have one on your shelf like I do. Even though she's a household name for so many of us, you might be surprised to learn about her battle with clinical depression and one that landed her in a psychiatric hospital alone and continues in many ways to this day.

In her new book, holding on when you want to let go, clinging to hope when life is falling apart, Sheila vulnerably shares the traumatic events of her childhood and the loneliness, anxiety and depression that still creep into her life and how the coronavirus pandemic magnified her struggles in the last couple of years and the source of the hope that keeps her holding on each day and every day.

I know you're going to be encouraged by her heart and her story and her wisdom and her Scottish accent you guys. So here is my conversation with my friend Sheila Walls.

Sheila, thank you so much for being on that Sounds Fun.

Oh, it's absolutely an honor, and I love your writing. It's the first time I actually get to meet you. I know I know it's surprising we haven't met in person before because we do so many of the same events, but we just are we miss each other.

Yeah, I know that's true and you're with so many of the same friends.

Yes. Oh, Sheila, we share all the people. That is 100% true. Okay, this is my leading question to you. Is will you tell me where you're from in Scotland?

I'm from a little fishing town called air just south of Glasgow. Yes. Okay. Do you know I used to live in Edinburgh?

No. Yes. I live there for almost a year helping with a church plant there.

Wow. I love Edinburgh. Such a beautiful city.

I am. So I'm Scottish in my heart, even if I'm not in my accent, Sheila. That's the truth.

I'm very Scottish in my heart. And I actually have been to air because I have a lot of friends. We used to do a camp over in outside of Glasgow.

I'm going to forget. I'm in Paisley. Oh, sure. Yeah. That's where Glasgow airport is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we used to go over there every summer. I probably did a summer camp there five years in a row maybe.

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