Sometimes in life we encounter people who teach us things we never knew we needed to learn,

who offer a perspective that forces us to re-evaluate our outlook,

and who humble us with their innate wisdom and kindness.

Sometimes though we also meet people who offer us none of these things.

Ladies and gentlemen, flats and shanks.

You ready? I'm ready mate.

You're doing it. So crack on with it. Let's do it.

Hello and welcome to this episode of our weekly podcast.

I am Tom Shanklin. I'm David Flappman.

I had a comment from a comment that I think was outside of the night and someone said,

you know, why don't you do the interest?

You did one of that. That's what I was just taking over.

You did one once. I'm a completely accidental by nature.

I'm a generous person, but I'm an accidental microphone hog.

So it's good that you're doing that because you deserve more airtime.

You're like, well, greenwood.

Yeah, it's one of the many things we've got in common, including our rugby pedigree.

Yeah, true, true. How you mate?

I'm all right. Yeah. I'm OK, boy. How are you?

Yeah, good. Good. You look well.

Thank you.

You look all right as well. Thank you.

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