Brianna, I share all of your frustrations, all of your concerns.

I think you've highlighted the major problems that we on the left face and struggle with,

and much of it is very dispiriting, But we have to just keep slogging away.

I'll go on Saturday to Washington, partly for my own morale to march with hopefully many, many

others for justice for the Palestinians.

There is finally this imperative to resist which is not practical but moral.

And when we stop resisting there's a part of us that dies

and we can't let that happen. Well for my last question since you raised this issue of

resistance I have found myself getting to a lot of fights on rising with

Robbie about this question and what it means what it means for there to be

protection under international law for occupied people to resist and the tension between that

right with people's condemnation of violence against civilians.

The juxtaposition of condemnation of Hamas's rhetoric

that says they target civilians. While we're seeing quite visibly Israel target large concentrations of civilians and saying

well we aren't targeting civilians because we're saying there is a Hamas person somewhere there in the mix.

We're seeing a lot of outrage about October 7th

and statements about the obvious entitlement Israel has to retribution, but a failure to recognize a kind of parallelism

for what Palestinians entitled to and retribution for 75 years of oppression for the last 17 years of occupation within Gaza.

And it's a very authority thing to navigate because I do think there's a very humanistic desire obviously to say

killing civilians is wrong. That being the case how do you start to talk about what

Palestinians are entitled to do with respect to force.

It's not entitled, you know, with those of us who covered Gaza, if there was one theme

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