Welcome to the Raising Boys and Girls Podcast. I'm Sissy Gough. I'm David Thomas. And I'm Melissa

Trevathan. And we are so glad you've set us out a few minutes to spend with us today. In each

episode of this podcast we'll share some of what we're learning in the work we do with kids and

families on a daily basis at Days Are Counseling in Nashville, Tennessee. Our goal is to help you

care for the kids in your life with a little more understanding, a little more practical help,

and a whole lot of hope. So pull up a chair and join us on this journey from our little yellow

house to yours. The Raising Boys and Girls Podcast is brought to you in partnership with Menno.

Menno provides meaningful screen time and shared experiences for families to help you grow in your

faith together. Check them out at podcast.govmento.com. That's podcast.gov.com.

These next two amazing folks don't need an introduction, but Michael W. Smith has won three Grammy

awards, 45 double awards, an American Music Award, and has sold more than 15 million albums.

We all know that behind every great man is an extraordinary woman. And we are honored to have

them as guests on the podcast today. We are so excited to get to have our next guest on here,

Michael and Debbie Smith. All three of us probably for different reasons, but I think just to have

your voices and your hearts here with us today feels like such a gift to us. And speaking from

not only parenting perspective of how many kids of your own five kids, but now grand parenting

16 16 kids. Yeah, just the wisdom that comes from that. And so we are really honored. Y'all

would spend time with us. And David and I have both loved your music. I think I discovered it when

I was probably 13. And I will say to Michael with that, I grew up in a family that didn't talk about

faith or the Lord match at all. And I think I learned who Jesus is from Christian music back in

those days. And so you really contributed to my faith in such significant ways. So very grateful

for that. Yeah. And David, I would imagine love you for a long time. So thankful for you all

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