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As always, I'm one of your host.

Mike Martin joined with my two other equal hosts. I hate saying co-host because it makes you feel like lesser. And that's like me. Equal hosts. It's crazy. My boys. My boys. My boy host. My boy host is not the way I should have said that. These other guys here. The only boy host is at as Jesse.

Jesse is a boy host.

Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. What am I? I'm a little dirty boy. Oh my God. I don't. I'm a dirty boy. Such a meager little voice. And with that, I'm just going to say it's a Jesse episode today, everybody. and I'm going to give it to the dirty little boy to take control.

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