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Like I would say if you look at their individual followings it's in the fucking

millions. I think one of them they said at the award show because they want something else

that they have 30 million followers on social media. And so how do I didn't even really want

to enter when we saw who else was entering? I'll be honest Wondru Plus our agents plus you guys

persuaded us to. I felt like we were going to lose. We weren't even planning to go to the awards

and then we're fucking one. We won. How? How is it possible? Which is all everybody kept asking

me at the awards? How did you win? Well I think what we've learned is that you can have millions

of followers on social media but when it comes to podcast absolutely. Can't fuck with us.

That's what makes me so happy is that it's about not how many followers you have but about how

engaged your audience is and this is the first time that people have been like shocked. In the past

it was kind of like yeah okay we had handed one like whatever and this year people were like

how? Yeah because huge names were gunning for it. Oh and publicly gunning for it so therefore

everybody knew what a huge huge huge huge deal it was and we were at the awards. We kind of knew

because they did call us a few days before and say are you guys definitely coming? You should

be coming and we were like no fucking way. And then that's when I was like okay I actually need

to wear to this and then we got there and we hadn't told the team and the man who was announcing

the award opened the envelope and he's like and the winner is for the third year and then I didn't

hear anything else because I just started screaming and there was a palpable sense of shock in the

room. I think yes I think so. You could have like picked some draws up off the floor. So thank you

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