Episode 317 - Professional Collaboration (Special Education Teacher Edition) w/ Carolyn Beaumier

ABA Inside Track

Robert Parry-Cruwys

Behavioralscience, Education, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Social Sciences, Aba, Science, Specialeducation

4.6 • 623 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re revisiting our long-running series on professional collaboration by discussing how behavior analysts can engage in practices to work well with special education teachers. And, as a special treat, we’re joined by long-time friend of the show and special education teacher/BCBA extrordinaire, Carolyn Beaumier. We dig into recent articles on some of the “faux pas” BCBAs often find themselves in when working with educators and hear some tried and true strategies from someone who’s been on both sides of the behavioral consulting role. Plus, first-hand stories of how well (or badly!) Rob actually is as a school consultant.

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Articles discussed this episode:

Giangreco, M.F., Pennington, R.C., & Walker, V.L. (2023). Conceptualizing and utilizing board certified behavior analysts as related services providers in inclusion-oriented schools. Remedial and Special Education, 44, 73-85. doi: 10.1177/07419325211063610

Squires, M., Cutrer-Pãrraga, E.A., Morris, J.R., Miller, E.E., & Hansen, B.D. (2024). Navigating collaboration: Factors influencing special education teachers’ relationships with BCBAs in diverse school contexts. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 17, 1033-1049. doi: 10.1007/s40617-024-010009-w

Reilly, A.M., Crowell, G.E., Thoele, J.M. et al. School-Based Transdisciplinary Teaming to Maximize Behavioral Supports. Behav Analysis Practice (2025). doi: 10.1007/s40617-025-01054-z

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer. I'm your host Robert Perry Cruz, and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts.
0:23.8	Hey, Rob, it's me, Diana Perry Cruz. Hello.
0:27.0	And it's me, Jackie Not Perry Cruz, McDonald.
0:31.0	Oh, wow.
0:31.6	Well, we are here in the midst of this podcast recording,
0:35.3	which is a podcast about behavior analysis and behavior analytic
0:38.2	research. In just a moment, we're going to tell you about our topic. We're going to tell you
0:42.0	about the research we'll be discussing. But for those who've been listening avidly through
0:46.8	the month of July, you'll notice it is our special guest month. So every episode this month
0:52.2	has a special guest joining us. I know sometimes we have
0:55.8	other guests in other months too, but in July, it's nonstop guests. It's like oops all guests.
1:01.2	Just it never ends. We're very, very excited to have a lot of guests. And we were talking about
1:06.7	what we wanted to review. And we thought it had been a while since we'd done our kind of special
1:11.8	series on collaboration in behavior analysis. And so we're going over, you know, well,
1:16.4	we've talked about collaboration with SLPs. We've talked about collaboration with OTs.
1:21.4	And we thought, you know what, would probably make sense because we've been doing some
1:24.2	episodes on working in schools and consultation in schools.
1:29.0	It's July, so it's a good time for, you know, getting back in touch with, you know, preparing for a new school year in a couple of weeks after the summer vacation.
1:38.6	And so we thought, let's do one on collaborating with special education teachers.
1:43.2	And I immediately said, well, then I'll be the special
1:45.2	guest because I am a BCBA and a special education teacher. And Jackie and Diana said no,
1:50.8	because people already have to listen to you talk. They don't want to listen to you, answer and ask
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