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Episode 31: Dr. Michael Turner, who coined the phrase ‘dark energy,’ talks about the deepest issues in cosmology

STEM-Talk

Dawn Kernagis and Ken Ford

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Science, Natural Sciences, Alternative Health

4.6694 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2017

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Michael Turner makes a “big bang” in the world of theoretical cosmology. Translation: He’s an expert on the universe—what it’s made of, what’s in its future, and how it came to be. Turner is the Rauner Distinguished Service Professor and Director of the Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics at the University of Chicago. From 2003 until 2006, was Assistant Director for Mathematical and Physical Sciences for the National Science Foundation. He is the recipient of numerous awards and prizes, and he is a Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). Michael Turner and Vera Rubben, who recently passed away. Turner is most well-known for having coined the phrase “dark energy” in 1998, which he calls “very, very mysterious stuff.” Thought to comprise 70 percent of the universe, dark energy is responsible for both the expansion of the universe and the increasing speed at which that expansion is occurring. Another five percent of the universe is atoms, and the remaining twenty-five percent is “dark matter”—what Turner calls “the cosmic infrastructure of the universe.” The universe, he adds, has largely “been a battle between the two dark titans: dark energy and dark matter.” “He [Turner] is able to explain the deepest issues in cosmology with a rare clarity and elegance,” says IHMC Director Ken Ford. “His research focuses on the earliest moments of creation.” With Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb, Turner co-wrote the well-known book “The Early Universe.” More information on Turner can be found here: https://kicp.uchicago.edu/people/profile/michael_turner.html and here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Turner_(cosmologist). Turner’s 2011 IHMC lecture, “The Dark Side of the Universe,” can be viewed here: . Turner was also a guest on STEM-Talk for an earlier episode for his interview on the discovery of gravitational waves. Turner is interviewed by regular STEM-Talk host Dawn Kernagis and guest host Tom Jones, a veteran NASA astronaut and senior research scientist at IHMC. 00:37: Ken calls Dr. Michael Turner “exactly the right guy to talk to about dark energy and dark matter. After all, he coined the phrase dark energy. He is able to explain deepest issues in cosmology with a rare clarity and elegance.” 1:04: Ken pays tribute to Vera Rubin, who passed away on Christmas Day. She confirmed the existence of dark matter and transformed modern physics and astronomy. 2:24: Ken asks for feedback on STEM-Talk and reads 5-star iTunes review from BobRXUF: “With all of the garbage we are bombarded with, listening to STEM-Talk reminds me that there is higher intelligence, the hope for mankind.” 3:35: Dawn and Ken introduce Michael and talk about his background. 4:17: Dawn and Tom welcome Michael to STEM-Talk. 4:39: Tom asks Michael to give listeners the big picture about the structure of our universe and explain how we stumbled upon the phenomenon called dark matter and dark energy? 5:14: Michael explains that a half of one percent of the universe is in the form of stars. The other 99.5 percent is dark. 6:29: Michael talks about how dark matter matter provides the cosmic infrastructure of the universe. 7:45: “Our universe,” says Michael, “has really been a battle between the two dark titans: dark energy and dark matter.” 9:49: Michael explains that’s it’s the stars that give off energy and it’s the atoms we’re made of. “We’re the tip of the iceberg. We’re the special stuff.” 10:52: “Michael talks about producing dark matter particles at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) in Geneva, Switzerland, the world’s most powerful particle accelerator. 11:25: Tom asks Michael what was the original evidence for dark matter and dark energy and who were the people who made that discovery? 13:20: Michael describes how Vera Rubin, a scientist working at the Department of Terrestrial Magnetism at the Carnegie Institution of Washington,

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0:00.0

Welcome to STEM Talk.

0:01.2

Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk, where we introduce you to fascinating people who passionately inhabit the

0:10.8

scientific and technical frontiers of our society.

0:14.0

Hi, I'm your host, Don Kornagas, and today we have a terrific interview with Dr. Michael

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Turner, who will discuss some of the most mysterious aspects

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of our emerging understanding of the universe, dark energy and dark matter, which together account

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for most of it. Also joining us is Dr. Ken Ford, IHMC's director and chairman of the double secret

0:31.2

selection committee that selects all the guests to appear on STEM Talk. Hi, Don, this will be fun

0:36.3

today. Now, at first blush, one might think that this will be a rather dry and academic topic.

0:43.3

But Michael Turner is exactly the right guide to talk to about dark energy and dark matter.

0:49.3

After all, he coined the phrase, dark energy.

0:52.3

He is able to explain some of the deepest issues in cosmology with a rare clarity and eloquence.

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This will be an interesting interview indeed.

1:03.9

It is important to note, however, that after we sat down with Michael,

1:08.8

Vera Rubin, who Michael refers to in his interview,

1:12.7

passed away on Christmas Day. As noted during our interview with Michael Turner,

1:18.9

the existence of dark matter had first been proposed by Swiss astrophysicist Fritz Zwicki

1:24.9

in the 1930s, but it was not confirmed until Vera Rubin's work. Her obituary in the New York Times

1:33.5

accurately noted that her work transformed modern physics and astronomy with her observations

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