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Avaughan What's up another episode of Reflected podcast? I'm your host, Riccad de Renzos and knows Rick and a great episode for you today.

Today we have a guest on somebody that I've been a fan of for a really long time. I've listened to him throughout the years on so many of the shows I love like Tinfoil hat podcast.

He's been on the higher side chats with Greg Carlewood a bunch of times. Marty Leads.

You can go to Marty Leads 33.com to find all his lectures, documentaries, and videos and podcasts.

And he's just a wealth of knowledge when you talk about Jamatria, which is when you believe

there's numbers assigned to letters and there's some type of alphabetical code and numerology and symbolism.

And he goes down so many different rabbit holes and he's not afraid to talk about anything and

everything. He's knowledgeable about so many different things like symbolism and language and

religion and all these different things. And he's done some amazing documentaries also.

His flat earth documentary, which I know is a controversial topic,

and it's a perfect example of how he's not afraid to explore any topic whatsoever.

Regardless how skeptical you are of that side of the argument,

you can watch it. And I send it to people

who think the idea of even questioning the science of the earth being round or flat is just silly.

And yet they're like, that's actually a really good documentary that asks some really good

questions and makes some really good points. So, I mean, that's just an example of

how thorough his work is and how well research and thought out his arguments are. So, I mean,

just a really, really fun guy to talk to. So I know you're going to enjoy this conversation.

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