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delivers and the Starbucks UK app, subject to availability while stocks last. Hello and welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Kate Spencer and I'm Dory Schaffreir and we are not experts. We're not experts. We're not

we're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums. You know I got a

facial for the first time yesterday in like a year.

And it was truly humbling because

it was my friend Brie who is a wonderful facialist and I had never seen her before.

I had just never gotten my act together and she knows I do this podcast and she was like,

tell me about your skin care routine and I was like, I don't know, it's kind of a mess.

Have I learned nothing in doing this podcast?

Oh.

But it was a lovely facial and she gave me a lactic acid peel. Oh, how is that?

I love the way like that feels, you know. Oh, how is that? My skin.

I love the way like that feels, you know, like it's like a mask, you know, it has like a little bit of like a tingly sensation.

Uh-huh.

And just because I, I, my skin feels so dull just dull just kind of like blah and it's

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