There is hope for us yet.

I am Holly Dickner's

and I am Laura McCowie and this is Home Podcast. It is the latest we've ever

recorded. Well for you I've done late I think I've done well I've done like that early. Yeah you've done very late and very early.

Um, so yeah it's 1 a.m. and in Boston and it's 10 p.m. in Fresno where I am where I am

I just arrived at the U-Haul.

Success.

Oh my God, I'm alive.

Yeah, and so we are very quickly introducing the episode for this week,

the interview that we did with Elena Brower.

Yeah, yes, so we, so for folks who may not know,

Alena is a very well known yoga teacher. She has been, she trained with,

started training with the masters I guess,

in the early 90s, late 90s, and she teaches on Yoga Glo.

She published a book called The Art of Attention,

which is a beautiful book. published a book called The Art of Attention to the Beautiful Book.

She teaches workshops all over the world, but at Cropalu and all the places you might expect.

And she is someone that I've followed

for quite a few years, and I follow on Instagram and about a year ago I noticed that she

posted that she was clean sober for just it was just a month maybe and I you know took took notice of that and I

I think I pulled Holly or someone else told you we both we both noticed and then

started to kind of track her journey there and noticed that she was sharing

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