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A Delectable Education Charlotte Mason Podcast

Episode 29: Citizenship: Every-day Morals and Economics

A Delectable Education Charlotte Mason Podcast

Nicole Williams

Homeschoolpodcast, Charlottemasoneducation, Education, Cmmethod, Studyguide

51K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2016

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary


This Charlotte Mason podcast focuses on the subject of citizenship beyond the study of Plutarch. Are Mason's ideas about the state and the citizen outdated or irrelevant for our students today? This discussion focuses on the subject that studies government, economics, and moral responsibility in the Mason feast.

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"The honour due to our country requires some intelligent knowledge of her history, laws, and institutions; of her great men and her people; of her weaknesses and her strength; and is not to be confounded with the ignorant and impertinent attitude of the Englishman or the Chinese who believes that to be born an Englishman or a Chinese puts him on a higher level than the people of all other countries; that his own country and his own government are right in all circumstances, and other countries and other governments always wrong. But, on the other hand, still more to be guarded against, is the caitiff spirit of him who holds his own country and his own government always in the wrong and always the worse, and exalts other nations unduly for the sake of depreciating his own." (Vol. 4, Book II, p. 121)

“Children familiar with the great idea of a State in the sense, not of a government but of the people, learn readily enough about the laws, customs and government of their country; learn, too, with great interest something about themselves, mind and body, heart and soul, because they feel it is well to know what they have it in them to give to their country.” (Vol. 6, p. 187)

“It is probable that the education of the future will recognise, as its guiding idea, Matthew Arnold's fine saying, that "The thing best worth living for is to be of use." Every man and woman will be a candidate for service beyond the range of his or her own family.” (Vol. 5, p. 447)

"[In Form I] Children begin to gather conclusions as to the general life of the community from tales, fables, and the story of one or another great citizen." (Vol. 6, p. 185)

"[In Form II] Citizenship becomes a definite subject rather from the point of view of what may be called the inspiration of citizenship than from that of the knowledge proper to a citizen, though the latter is by no means neglected." (Vol. 6, p. 185)

“There are few better equipments for a citizen than a mind capable of discerning the Truth, whether it lie on the side of our party or on that of our opponents. But this just mind can only be preserved by those who take heed what they hear, and how.” (Vol 4, p. 154)

"Civics takes place as a separate subject [from history], but it is so closely bound up with literature and history on the one hand and with ethics, or, what we call every-day morals, on the other, that the division of the subjects is only nominal." (Vol. 6, p. 274)



If you would like to study along with us, here are some passages from The Home Education Series and other Parent's Review articles that would be helpful for this episode's topic. You may also read the series online here, or get the free Kindle version from Fisher Academy.

Ourselves (Volume 4)

Towards a Philosophy of Education (Volume 6), pp. 185-189



The Citizen Reader (Used by Mason in the PNEU, Form 2)

Uncle Eric series by Richard Maybury

Gerald Johnson's Books on the government: The Presidency, The Cabinet, The Congress, The Supreme Court

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Audio Version of Charlotte Mason's Ourselves (Volume 4)

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0:00.0

The Oh, Welcome back to a delectable education, the podcast that spreads the feast of the Charlotte

0:35.4

Mason method.

0:36.4

I'm Emily Kaiser, and I'm here with Nicole Williams and Liz Kottrell.

0:40.0

This is episode 29 and we are going to be talking about citizenship and as we were preparing

0:45.5

for this episode we thought it rather ironic and fitting that it's airing on Tax Day here

0:51.7

in the United States.

0:53.0

So when people start reading Charlotte Mason,

0:56.0

people especially from conservative homeschooling families,

1:01.0

they often reach a stumbling block when they start to encounter Charlotte Mason's

1:06.4

ideas about citizenship and her vocabulary and terminology, she refers to the state and the government in ways that

1:16.7

sometimes make our American they raise our hackles a little bit, shall we say.

1:23.0

But when we really understand what she's saying, even though she lived,

1:27.0

you know, in the 19th century into the 20th, you know, and was in Britain at the height of the British Empire and we're in America today,

1:34.8

probably. Thank you for listening all of you international listeners. You know, we have different frames of

1:40.5

reference, but I think that that also colors our definition.

1:43.6

So let's start and just really talk about what did Mason mean when she used the term

1:49.2

citizen and citizenship?

1:51.2

Right, I think it's important because I was one of those people.

1:54.0

Yeah.

1:55.0

I was writing you guys saying, I just don't like the way she's talking here.

1:59.8

But part of it is because we a lot of times think of our citizenship as where we belong and more about

2:05.7

our rights and our privileges rather than our duties of being a citizen.

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