Episode 28: The Asymptotic 'Two State Solution' (Part I)
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🗓️ 28 February 2018
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
The idea that there exists an ongoing effort to achieve a "two-state solution" in Israel and Palestine - often referred to as The Middle East Peace Process™ - is uniformly taken for granted by American media. This "two-state solution" is always at different stages of viability, yet never quite works out. Presidents fail to achieve it; Palestinian violence makes it "more difficult"; Israeli settlements are "unhelpful" to it.
But how honest is this effort? How are nonstop obituaries for a phantom "process" helping to maintain the status quo, or worse? How much does this infinitely regressive effort deliberately mask an ongoing and active policy of ethnic cleansing by the Israelis in the West Bank and Gaza?
In Part I of this two-part episode, we discuss this "two-state" racket with Professor Noura Erakat.
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| 0:33.6 | Hi Adam. |
| 0:34.6 | What are we talking about today? |
| 0:35.6 | Today we're talking about one of our favorite perma narratives, which is the two state |
| 0:42.4 | solution and the nebulous piece process as it regards to Israel and Palestine. |
| 0:47.0 | And since this is such a tiny topic to talk about, really, and we could just knock it |
| 0:52.8 | right out, we've decided to do this as a two part episode. |
| 0:56.7 | So we can actually have the time to dig into this. |
| 0:59.7 | We will be joined later on this show by Nora Erichot, Human Rights Attorney and Assistant |
| 1:04.3 | Professor at George Mason University. |
| 1:06.6 | Israel does not want a two state solution and has created the facts on the ground to make |
| 1:11.9 | it absolutely impossible, which is in line with what Egal Alon also outlined in 1967 when |
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